[Megathread] Star Citizen

[Odeezee]

so much misinformation the last few pages. you will never lose your ship regardless of how you acquire it, in-game or as a pledge. all insurance does is allow you to replace and access your ship. so if/when your insurance runs out you won't be able to file a claim to get a replacement until you are able to get insurance for it again. that is all.

you can still rent ships, be crew on other player and npc ships or use public transportation or pay for a commercial flight. you don't even need a ship to play the game.

[Zeta333]

Yep, lets see that Star Citizen population of 20k players. Im sure they would love it.

Yeh im sure there are millions and millions that will be waiting in 10 years when its finally released.

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7 years in a PvP game without pvping "the entire time" while staying in the "top 1%" sounds hell of legit.

And yet somehow i managed to do it. Its almost as if there are professions that dont take pvp to do and that you can avoid pvp while accomplishing and still advance.

[Zeta333]

Yeah, or so you claim, I'm just pointing out how it sort of sounds like utter bullocks.

7 years playing (regularly?) in a highly PvP focused video game, that offers no safe areas besides landing zones ... just what have you been doing during all that time? Sitting in a space station just trading? ... and "top 1%" of what? What and how are you exactly measuring there?

I ran mass logistics operating 30+ accounts using 7+ jumpfreighters at a time moving millions and millions of m3 of cargo as well as staging mass fleets of capital ships alone across the galaxy map for thousands of players in the top 1% of pvpers in the game. There are always things that pvpers require in pvp focused games where everything is built from the ground up and not simply sold by npc's. Just becuase its pvp only doesnt mean you cant make a game of avoiding it at all costs and make your bank while doing it or making a name for yourself or building a personal empire many or important people rely upon in order to operate and carry out said pvp.

[Cyclone Jack]

Just becuase its pvp only doesnt mean you cant make a game of avoiding it at all costs and make your bank while doing it or making a name for yourself or building a personal empire many or important people rely upon in order to operate and carry out said pvp.

I can attest to this. I remember back in the early UO days, I got ganked bringing a huge pile of ore back to town, and two rival Kill-on-Sight Guilds set aside their differences to make sure my killer had a very, very bad day, and they escorted me back to town, which took ~30 minutes. Apparently, I had helped a number of people from both guilds with crafting/dyeing gear that protecting me was a higher priority than fighting eachother. After that, all I had to do was mention a resource run or that I was going to travel to some place, and both guilds would attach 2-3 players on me as escorts. Over time, I never really had to worry about PvP, as my name began to spread (unintentionally, I might add; all I wanted to do was keep my Tailoring and Blacksmithing at the Grandmaster level).

PvPers need things to get done, and they'd rather be PvPing instead of gathering and crafting. To them, someone who can get those things done is their best friend. It doesn't take long for your name to get known, and your services begin to be utilized by more and more people, and at some point you're worth more alive than dead.

[Majestic12]

@ https://support.robertsspaceindustri...Insurance-FAQs


... either you are wrong, or CIG needs to start phrasing shit better.

He is wrong. The entire point of insurance falls apart if everyone has LTI by default.

This just goes to show how that one single random employee of CIG messed up when he responded to that concierge ticket with pure misinformation. People who want it are spreading it around endlessly, while the insurance system sits right there with the info you just quoted.

Edit: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/s...-update/858889

[kenn9530]

He is wrong. The entire point of insurance falls apart if everyone has LTI by default.

This just goes to show how that one single random employee of CIG messed up when he responded to that concierge ticket with pure misinformation. People who want it are spreading it around endlessly, while the insurance system sits right there with the info you just quoted.

Edit: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/s...-update/858889

we still dont know what they are going to do with the ships that backers have put real money in the game for though, LTI is mainly about saving a little ingame money and never needing to worry about renewing the basic policy, you will most likely still need to pay for more advanced insurance to cover all the upgrades though, there is not enough information about all the aspects of insurance to know for sure.

[Odeezee]

@ https://support.robertsspaceindustri...Insurance-FAQs


... either you are wrong, or CIG needs to start phrasing shit better.

LMFAO, thank-you for showing everyone in this thread that first, you do not understand English and second you did not even bother reading and comprehending the source you provided. i literally just repeated what CIG said, just using different words; insurance prevents you from losing your stuff. that's it. when your insurance runs out you don't magically lose your stuff, you just lose "access" to it until your renew your policy. smh. this is how i know, outside of maybe on person who does not like Star Citizen in this thread, detractors never argue in good faith and worse still detractors are wrong almost all of the time, even when things are demonstrable or easily falsifiable. /sigh

i don't own one, as i am prolly going to play as a space hobo, but i might eventually get one in-game, but this ship is sexy af!

[Zeta333]

+7 years, operating +30 account, using +7 jump freighters at a time, moving valuable cargo across the galaxy, while avoiding PvP the entire time… successfully? Again, I highly doubt that.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that if you play smart and carefully you can avoid a lot of it, but completely? Yeah… nha… it’s a matter of time until you find one of those that can and will kill you just for the sake of it, and lots of people just cba with that shit.

On the bright side, star citizen is planning private servers I believe, it should allow you the solo/friends only sort of gameplay, which is pretty much what I’m personally interested about, love the way ED made it, would love if SC could pull something similar or better than that.

as far as eve went it was all about not cutting corners. Dont get lazy, dont take somthing for granted, always do your scouting and check, always use intel always be safe. If i needed protection i had the call of all those i moved things for that would help. Doubt all you want but when an entire subset of people just want to mash buttons and pew but dont want to deal with the aids of buying moving building and supplying they will jump to help you to avoid shit they dont want to deal with.

[Zeta333]

As I said, I don't doubt at all that being careful and smart about it saves you a ton of trouble, I just have a hard time believing you can completely avoid PvP in a open-PvP even playing like that, it’s only a matter of time till you stumble upon someone.

Even though, it’s still part of the reason why people cba with open-pvp, they don’t want to spend their entire time looking over their shoulder, they just want sit back, chill out, and stick to their own things.

Well its possible cus i avoided it. I made myself useful that i wasnt required to pvp in any group i was apart of. And stuck to areas that would allow me to avoid combat and keep my cargo safe. But the reason i gravitated twords that game is because it punished stupid. If your dumb in eve online you lose shit. You lose ISK, you die, you lose your ships. And if you keep being dumb your drummed out of the game because you essentially lose it all. Meaning most people with money and i say most since you can buy currency the same way as in wow, had little more common sense that the average mmoer. I enjoyed the bluntness of the atmosphere of the game, openly calling people on doing dumb shit or being stupid. So many mmos coddle the players that they learn nothing and i dont think it fosters more intelligent play at all. It also shows the true lawlessness of space and how the players make thier own rules for the most part.

[Aliven]

Well its possible cus i avoided it. I made myself useful that i wasnt required to pvp in any group i was apart of. And stuck to areas that would allow me to avoid combat and keep my cargo safe. But the reason i gravitated twords that game is because it punished stupid. If your dumb in eve online you lose shit. You lose ISK, you die, you lose your ships. And if you keep being dumb your drummed out of the game because you essentially lose it all. Meaning most people with money and i say most since you can buy currency the same way as in wow, had little more common sense that the average mmoer. I enjoyed the bluntness of the atmosphere of the game, openly calling people on doing dumb shit or being stupid. So many mmos coddle the players that they learn nothing and i dont think it fosters more intelligent play at all. It also shows the true lawlessness of space and how the players make thier own rules for the most part.

Yep, its a dick simulator, we get it.

[MrAnderson]

3.9 with Evocati!

New Apple Store City is pretty dope:


https://i.imgur.com/MH7Crpi.png
https://i.imgur.com/nEd78oD.png
https://i.imgur.com/cX0xl93.png

Yes, and how many of those 3 do you think they will complete?
Lets see then because the ISC video showed them being doubtful about getting all 3 done.

Most likely all of them. They were already in the PTU albeit without the final textures.

Lets see then because the ISC video showed them being doubtful about getting all 3 done.

The 3 Moons are in

[1001]

The 3 Moons are in

Just read that on the sub. Yay for CIG, just a few hundred more to go.

[Proskill]

i dont have the PLAY button on my launcher. wat do? already restarted it

[Val the Moofia Boss]

i dont have the PLAY button on my launcher. wat do? already restarted it

Can you take a snip of the launcher and show what you're seeing?

[Proskill]

Can you take a snip of the launcher and show what you're seeing?

https://imgur.com/a/RCHkQAG

[Val the Moofia Boss]

https://imgur.com/a/RCHkQAG

Try restarting the launcher. Not just closing it on your task bar. Right click your task bar and open up the task manager, scroll down the list of processes and close any RSI Launcher processes, then try starting up the launcher again.

If that doesn't work, do a launcher reset. Open up the RSI launcher and press "CRTL + ALT + SHIFT + R", and click okay. It will set the launcher to its default settings.

If that doesn't work, then just uninstall the RSI launcher (separate from the actual Star Citizen game). Go to the RSI website and download the launcher again (which will be the latest version and come with fresh settings).

[Proskill]

thanks, bro. the second option helped

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The space whales sound cool.

[Proskill]

it happened again. wtf

never had that issue before. now twice

[Odeezee]

The Carrack doesn't quite feel like the Millenium Falcon/Serenity "home away from home". So far, it has nice content functionality with the garage to hold vehicles and the small landing bay for small ships, but there isn't actually much there to make feel attached to the ship. When you walk down to the mess hall, you can't sit in the chairs at the table. You can't go into the game room and play pool. All crewmembers except the captain share the same bed room, with military style bunkbeds. Not very homely or inviting like how everyone in Serenity lived in their own room. Etc. I guess lighting and materials also play a big part; Serenity felt a lot like a "house", with that dining room with the wooden table and kitchen cabinets and warm lighting, etc. It has potential for sure, though.

i think they need to do something about the empty space about the ship and soften some of the lights around the ship to make it feel more cozy oh and add more lights as there are many areas that are dark af. maybe add a couch or two, but for me it was close to being a home away from home, just needs some polish.

On a similar note, I'm a little annoyed by CIG's "implement a model or art asset of something, don't program it till later" mentality. They've implemented bars, but you can't actually order anything at the bar. They've implemented restaurants, but you can't walk up to the restaurant and eat something. They implemented arcades, but you can't walk up to the arcade and play a minigame, not even a game as simple as slots. It's just a 2D texture. They have pool tables on ships, but you can't play pool. Etc.

that's just pre-alpha for you. they will flesh things out as they progress. and if you ask people would they rather get the ship first then the mechanics later or both later, they would choose the ship for sure. it sucks yes, but that's just what is necessary as there are other priorities namely Squadron 42 and other tech dependencies they are waiting on. i mean there are a few web-based games that CIG has made that they could integrate into the Mobi or ship MFDs that would be sick during quantum jumps and ofc at arcades. they have said they are coming, we just have to wait. set your sights on a lot more change and all after Squadron 42 releases so think by end of year 2021.

"LMFAO" indeed, apparently, I'm getting told my English comprehension sucks by someone who doesn't know what "forever" fucking means, but hey, instead of sitting there talking shit about my English we could always just discuss this in Portuguese if you would like.



If you don't pay for insurance, you can lose your shit, forever, ya know, for all future time, as in, for always, continually, permanently.

Blocked until payed for it’s not “forever”, it’s temporary, the antonym of it.

Thus why I said, you are either wrong about it, or CIG just described it poorly, still you are more than welcome to provide me an official source that goes more in-depth about it, because personally I don’t really care if it’s one or the other, I merely pointed out what’s stated on the FAQ, but considering that instead of that you just decided to gun for my English and give me the old hypocritical speech about “arguing in bad faith”, I’ll just assume that you don’t really have much to show for… but yeah, thank-you for showing everyone in this thread what a pitiful person you are once again.

LMFAO, yes now CIG are wrong for using a common turn of phrase because Myobi doesn't know how to infer meaning as he needs things spelled out for him? smh. why do i even bother, you were wrong in your understanding of the words and phrases and still won't admit that you misunderstood and look to blame anyone else but yourself. typical. it obviously cannot be forever if there is a remedy to counter it. actually never mind, keep thinking whatever the fuck you want to and like i said, thank-you for showing just how much of a bad faith detractor you really are.

this is so dope. really looking forward to 3.9