*sigh* Prot pallys

[underdogba]

Anyone notice how fked up we get by the bosses in Mogu'shan Vaults? But when a dk is tanking it they barely take any dmg.

We're obviously playing a different game, because prot pallies vs blood dk's feel like they're almost exactly the same right now.

[Ausr]

The only thing that is pissing me off right now is my AoE threat. I'll have a good 10 second lead in on packs, with my SoR/Light's Hammer/Holy Wrath/Con/HotR and then my Monk co-tank runs in, hits one aoe move and rips them all off me. Then I'm lucky to get a mob or two pack unless I taunt them off.

[saintlyn]

Healer Threat is the answer - it was discussed on the forums already. Went in with SoI+GoBH yesterday for 1st boss in MV - after pull even boss single tanked by warrior ran to me Not even a problem with add packs before them.

[Drfireburns]

The only thing that is pissing me off right now is my AoE threat. I'll have a good 10 second lead in on packs, with my SoR/Light's Hammer/Holy Wrath/Con/HotR and then my Monk co-tank runs in, hits one aoe move and rips them all off me. Then I'm lucky to get a mob or two pack unless I taunt them off.

You're doing something horribly wrong then. I never lose threat on multiple mobs regardless of what type of dps I'm running with.

Edit * Yay 100th post.

[MrKnubbles]

I felt fine. Just use Shield of the Righteous before attacks, you take half damage.

[Ausr]

You're doing something horribly wrong then. I never lose threat on multiple mobs regardless of what type of dps I'm running with.

Edit * Yay 100th post.

Couldn't tell ya. I bust everything out and still get pulled off from him. I rape in single target threat though.

[saranya]

Couldn't tell ya. I bust everything out and still get pulled off from him. I rape in single target threat though.

I will say though, Brewmaster "dizzying haze" or "keg smash" generates enormous threat. I haven't looked into what the multiplier is but just anecdotely it takes 1 or 2 hits of it and a mob will stay superglued to him no matter what. So I can see in an aoe situation how he could be pulling off you.

As other's have said, try Seal of Insight if you're not using it. The healing component helps and as a matter of fact, glyph Battle Healer.

Also, dmg buffs in 5.1 PTR. Looks like my wish will come true on the dps side.

[Ausr]

I will say though, Brewmaster "dizzying haze" or "keg smash" generates enormous threat. I haven't looked into what the multiplier is but just anecdotely it takes 1 or 2 hits of it and a mob will stay superglued to him no matter what. So I can see in an aoe situation how he could be pulling off you.

As other's have said, try Seal of Insight if you're not using it. The healing component helps and as a matter of fact, glyph Battle Healer.

Also, dmg buffs in 5.1 PTR. Looks like my wish will come true on the dps side.

Yeah, I've been using SoI and Battle Healer. Nothing on him in terms of threat.

And I believe those damage buffs are the tooltips updated from when we were hotfixed a week ago.

[saranya]

Yeah, I've been using SoI and Battle Healer. Nothing on him in terms of threat.

And I believe those damage buffs are the tooltips updated from when we were hotfixed a week ago.

looks like you're right. oh well. guess I can keep hoping. it's the seal change that i'm feeling weak now.

and yeah, not sure what else you can do other than try to out gear him. or reforge to hit, exp, haste (mix in some dps gear). depending on what side of the theorycraft fence you are, assuming you're capped hit/exp. the haste could help you vs going parry/mastery

[Mushedcow]

Use the healing seal, it works wonders with vengeance, you'll probably pull ahead of your healers in terms of healing yourself, and then we take less physical damage than DK's anyway so you'll be doing more self healing and taking less damage.

[Shirra]

Surprised to see people not using Seal of Insight with battlehealer. With enough mobs on me, I can litterally heal my entire party plus myself with it. We pulled 15 mobs in scholo (the students before the proffesor) plus the miniboss and after an initial spike of cooldowns I had so much vengeance I barely ever went below 75%. And this is with mixed questing and crafted gear.

[Ater]

I got to agree with the rest of you, prot pallys might not be at the same level as DKs but still we are relly good right now and I think that the risk that we get nerfed a bit is bigger then the chance that we would get buffed.

[Deleted]

Damage intake is fine. But we really, really need a DPS buff. It's awful at the moment due to the massive nerf to Seal of Truth

[saintlyn]

Damage intake is fine. But we really, really need a DPS buff. It's awful at the moment due to the massive nerf to Seal of Truth

Go with Seal of Insight

[Deleted]

Go with Seal of Insight

Already using it :3 I mean, the nerf to Seal of Truth smacked us bad yo.

[Playintrafic]

I also contributed nearly 45k hps to the raid/myself..

Lmao. No you didn't. Not as prot.

[Kaeth]

Lmao. No you didn't. Not as prot.

I've broken 20k hp/sec in a 5-man dungeon. I think 45k does sound a bit far-fetched, but still maybe in the realm of possibility.

[saintlyn]

If you're tanking 2 dogs on 25 man Stone Guard you can reach around 37K HPS

WoL Log

[Deleted]

I've broken 20k hp/sec in a 5-man dungeon. I think 45k does sound a bit far-fetched, but still maybe in the realm of possibility.

You should try pulling 5-6 packs in a hc.

My record is about 350k dps and 95k hps without any special buffs other than own cooldowns. ( done in Siege of something temple )

[Deleted]

Prot paladins spamming wrath with vengeance up got alot of 4/6 cheesed kills .. shame you were hotfixed to get Rebirth now, lol.