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  1. #461
    Quote Originally Posted by StationaryHawk View Post
    That doesn't make it a vaguely-conceivable possibility, seeing as it's already been discussed quite a bit on this forum. Of course I found it more likely that Anduin was the second prince, seeing as he plays a rather large role in Mists of Pandaria, but I'm talking about in the event where he dies. As you'd know if you bothered to read my original post.

    And it's not like Blizzard hasn't brought side characters into the spotlight before.
    I did read your original post. It's Warcraft, no one stays dead.

    Yeah I agree they bring in side characters. But if we're getting Two Princes in 5.2 (since it's Chapter III), we're going to need a hell of a lot of foreshadowing to justify Saballion over Anduin. One's been significantly built up over the past year or so, the other an Outland quest giver that barely anyone will remember.

    Also, I hope it's not Saballion because more black dragonflight infighting is dull. I like the fact Wrathion's the last Black Dragon on Azeroth and isn't batshit insane. We don't need to introduce the "evil twin" trope nor more dragon politics. Cataclysm dealt with that fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchu View Post
    Also, I hope it's not Saballion because more black dragonflight infighting is dull. I like the fact Wrathion's the last Black Dragon on Azeroth and isn't batshit insane. We don't need to introduce the "evil twin" trope nor more dragon politics. Cataclysm dealt with that fine.
    Who says Wrathion will not turn against us?

    Blizzard says he has Azeroth's best intentions in mind.
    But whats best for Azeroth, may not be the same as whats best for the people living on Azeroth.
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    Who says Wrathion will not turn against us?

    Blizzard says he has Azeroth's best intentions in mind.
    But whats best for Azeroth, may not be the same as whats best for the people living on Azeroth.
    Oh, I'm not saying he's a goody two-shoes. I'm just saying he doesn't share Deathwing's psychotic worldview. I think he's certainly dangerous, and will use the mortal races to further his endgame. He's just not a "ME BREAK WORLD" kinda villain.

  4. #464
    Anduin clearly cast Spectral Guise and Garrosh was dumb enough to fall for it.

  5. #465
    Okay, okay, my wording may have been a bit harsh. I apologize. But, yeah, pretty much exactly what Matchu said. There's too much pointing at it being Anduin (think of it this way: "the Black Prince" and "the White Prince"; Anduin leading an army against the Burning Legion/Wrathion working to unit the two factions for an oncoming war with the Legion), the way he's been built up for a while now, even despite his apparent "death" here. There's absolutely nothing pointing to Sabellian, short of him simply existing.
    Last edited by rat; 2012-10-12 at 04:30 AM.

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    I kinda would like to see Garrosh Kill him. I am tried of this no one dying thing. In war there are casualties, lets see them. I want to see real war. I feel that the horde and alliance have been stagnant. No change in real positions since BC(in AQ we actually came together, so we are more back trailing...). I want to feel real change, if we are at war, let's see it!
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    I think Wrathion is Anduin.
    He's exactly the same height, same figure and he seems to have the same intellect as him.
    What if Onyxia did something to the child and had a dragon fill in for his spot in Stormwind back when Bolvar was reagent lord.

    Think about it, Velen had a vision with Anduin leading the army of the light, and what did the little meeting with Wrathion show? Infernal rain hitting Azeroth which means the legion is involved and that makes me certain Wrathion is Anduin.

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    This from the same company that said "We will not see Pandaren in WoW" after trademarking Mists of Pandaria.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-11 at 11:36 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by rat View Post
    That is infinitely stupider than any other vaguely-conceivable possibility.
    We crossed that threshold as soon as the concept of Anduin being killed came up.

    If he dies, we cross into a World of Warcraft where the story is made up on the fly and the rules don't matter.
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  9. #469
    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post

    We crossed that threshold as soon as the concept of Anduin being killed came up.

    If he dies, we cross into a World of Warcraft where the story is made up on the fly and the rules don't matter.
    You really need to take a nap or something. Calm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    If he dies, we cross into a World of Warcraft where the story is made up on the fly and the rules don't matter.
    Welcome to the World of Warcraft, where the plot is made up and the rules don't matter. That's right, the plot is like the characterization of the Alliance. It just doesn't matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Callax View Post
    Welcome to the World of Warcraft, where the plot is made up and the rules don't matter. That's right, the plot is like the characterization of the Alliance. It just doesn't matter.

    I think I just fell in love...

    Anyways wow has never been in any real stability in the way they progress lore in World of Warcraft. I mean look at Garrosh, his character is a symbol of that. He has flipped more sides than Mitt...okay he has not done that much....*But at first blizzard was trying to show that he was a good leader and now they are trying to pin him as a bad mistake because people do not like him. The Horde and Alliance worked together in AQ, what happened to that? You could say we kinda say we did that in TOC but it was a farce, they still tried to kill each other.
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  12. #472
    a few things about anduin's "death".

    1. Garrosh is brain-dead retarded, he could be assuming his death.
    2. Anduin is the only lore character who actually has a hearthstone.
    3. it could be from a failure state.
    4. death is literally meaningless most of the time, the bitch queen died and came back in less then a minute... after already being dead.

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    I hope Garrosh kills Anduin and go crazy so we can get rid of this stupid warchief.
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  14. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by maldias View Post
    a few things about anduin's "death".

    1. Garrosh is brain-dead retarded, he could be assuming his death.
    2. Anduin is the only lore character who actually has a hearthstone.
    3. it could be from a failure state.
    4. death is literally meaningless most of the time, the bitch queen died and came back in less then a minute... after already being dead.
    Thats(/These) pretty much my guess(es) as well.
    The whole "at least" (not last) could be pointing at some kind of failure state.
    If the whole dialogue 1 and 2 thing turns out to be different versions for A/H I'd go with him either beeing close to death, some kind of trick magic or just getting a rezz. If they really just randomly kill him off I'm going to be pissed and I'm Horde FYI. The whole the horde always wins kind of annoys me greatly, because it makes the already retarded faction conflict even more so.

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    Has this been overlooked or is there a thread I missed?

    Garrosh tries to have Vol'jin assassinated by the looks of things, this mission he is sent is an ambush - http://ptr.wowhead.com/zone=6565
    Look at the final objective.

  16. #476
    Its pretty clear that Garrosh sends Vol'Jin to kill Anduin ("a mission in the heart of this land"). Vol'Jin goes away and either he or more likely someone else (we?) reports back that Vol'Jin did the deed, while in truth he is chilling with Dezco plotting the demise of Garrosh. My guess is that Dezco will play a key role in turning the other horde leaders against Garrosh, not that too much convincing is needed in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    If Garrosh dies in Orgrimmar, my guess is he'll go out like Luca Blight did in Suikoden II: every major commander in the City-States' army bashed him around, the hero tore him up, and after all that, it still took hundreds of archers riddling him with arrows to take him down--and he still had time for an epic villainous monologue before collapsing. As Luca said:
    If Blizz had him open an amulet before he's killed, I'd cry tears of joy.


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    Can someone put a script of this? i'm in China and youtube is blocked!

    Really, if they kill Anduin off...

  19. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaelsino View Post
    "The weak-willed cannot control this sha energy. But I will master it!"

    This will end well.

    And come on, don't be silly. You know Anduin will survive.

    Have to agree with this.

    There's noway they're killing off Anduin so soon, Garrosh probably only THINKS Anduin dies.
    Gamers are too obsessed with the death of games. Imagine if all that energy was channeled into the LIFE of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefinalwarden View Post
    They are the manifestation of negative emotion, that also ramps up and overwhelms others with said emotion and controls them through the emotion. The sha of fear played up the paranoia of the mantids and soon consumed and controlled them through it.
    That sounds awfully like the psychorreactive slime in Ghostbusters II

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