Originally Posted by
-Apathy-
Oh wait I get it you haven't seen or been in a top tier guild have you doing wipe after wipe after wipe struggling to finish the race, ~Points at Paragon's 500+ Wipes on Heroic Ragnaros how much total gold did they spend I wonder?
I rest my case
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Based on your Armory of both your toons you too have never been in a "Top Tier Raiding Guild" Watching those guilds on Youtube to try and learn a strat that you wipe on over and over because your guild blows does not make you "Hard Core or Top Tier" BTW to educate you on Paragon to be in paragon you have to come to the guild with atleast 250k gold. All of thier mats, enchants and everything you can think of are paid for bye the guild. They have an unlimited ammount of gold and get perks from the Dev Teams to allow them to be ammong the top ranked guilds in the world. Just this expansion they went from 25 man to a 10 man raiding guild.
Now to turn this back to the actual topic of the thread. This expansion there is no Toll Barad, PVP bases quests or even mats you can buy from a vendor with pvp honor. I myself am not just a pvper I am a "Hard Core Raider in a Top Tier Guild" I spend most of my time raiding but I also have a 2500 MMR in 3v3 and RBGS. My guild pays for most everything I would ever need. I am lucky because as we all know during a new expansion the auction houses are very expensive for mats, enchants and gems. A person who just PVPs in pandas is kind of screwed because there is no true pvp outlet to earn gold. In comparison to the last 2 expansions where there was ample ways to earn hundreds in gold a week to offset the expenses of gearing up and lvling professions. You can not use your professions without access one of the following: Gold to purchase mats off the AH or Farming mats through doing pve related actions. Now if you were not lucky enough to have oodles of gold before the expansion hit you are looking at about 4k to lvl from 85-90. Being that you really need flying in order to get to the PVP vendor in pandaria (Another BIG F to the PVPers) You are looking at 2k of the 4k in order to get there. So that leaves you with 2k to spend on repairs gemming and gearing. That is if you were broke at the start. Good Luck gearing up on that budget. Just saying provide the pvpers with the same access to gold as the people who do PVE remember PVE is not just raiding. It encompasses the remainder of the entrire game such as questing, dungeons, challenges, farming, auction house. PVPers do have access to them but they will have to move into a lifestyle they are just not happy with doing.