<Paragon> has shown how easy 10's is this tier, too. When exceptional players like themselves try 10's, they clear the majority on the first day.
<Paragon> has shown how easy 10's is this tier, too. When exceptional players like themselves try 10's, they clear the majority on the first day.
Originally Posted by Offhand
Great, a step backwards....just like so much of MoP.
People will feel forced to run 25s, not because they enjoy it, because they feel they must.
back to unstable guilds,hard recruitment, endlessly running the same raid because you may get gear in 10 or 25....
!0s were only "easier" because people overgeared them and ran them in 25man gear....
Last edited by mmoc4e3ce29075; 2012-10-25 at 08:23 AM.
Yet when you run the numbers for the personal DPS requirements a 25 man raider is required to do more DPS.
An update: the 25-man raid will feature higher difficulty.
Am i the only one who read the post that says its for KR players only?
We now have needless argument over epeen of players of each side saying what they do is harder. A never ending argument with no real proof that either way is harder than the other.
I feel the same way about LFR. I hate it from the bottom of my heart and i still do it for upgrades.
I tried going 25 man during Dragon soul, but that project fell apart due to logistics and the insane difference in difficult. Bring better loot for 25 man is the best way to keep people interested.
Most 10 man guilds have a roster of 10 players, most 25 man guilds have a roster of 30. On Sargeras we have five 25 man guilds on the first page. At 30 raiders each, that's 150 people. There is fifteen 10 man guilds in the top 20, that's 150 people.
While I think the rest of your opinions are stupid, this one is right on. I'm all for 15 man raiding.
Your deliberately leaving out the fact that pretty much all abilities from bosses do MORE raid damage to MORE people in 25M raids. It's not the same amount of damage to heal back. It's more, in which sometimes that extra damage can 2-shot a tank, where in 10M it's not the same.
Not to mention the fact that in 25M more people need to learn special assignments during the fight (more melee to learn how to "dance" @ Will of the Emperor, more setting up groups for soaking @ Ultraxion HC which you had to have special classes in those 3 groups that could take the 300k hit with cooldowns).
They simply can't be compared. Every time we went 10M as a guild (we mainly raid 25M) for fun and giggles (during holidays, for example, when 25M raid is on break for us) we ALWAYS had an easier time in 10M than 25M. The last tier I remember being harder on 10M was T11. Anything else is a joke, maybe because we're more experienced, dunno...
Educate the community: X-Perl is dead. Stop using it!
Pleeeeeeease bring this to European realms!