Varus/Nidalee bottom and AP Kog mid is pretty much the ones I think would fit very well. But are there any good top laners and junglers that could fill in the poke comp? Or is having those 3 already enough?
Varus/Nidalee bottom and AP Kog mid is pretty much the ones I think would fit very well. But are there any good top laners and junglers that could fill in the poke comp? Or is having those 3 already enough?
Jayce is pretty awesome top, since he has some amazing poke.
As for junglers... I'm not sure really. Maybe maoki since he can throw saplings?
Jayce top, Ez/Sona bot, Skarner or Nunu Jungle, and Xerath, Kog, Gragas, or Ori mid.
Kinda figured someone would bring up Jayce. He is a strong pick, but his harass kinda has a higher CD then most of the others. After kog/varus/nida, I'm starting to wonder if getting more poke is even necessary. I heard about the poke comp and I had the luck to lane with a nida while varus and it was pretty funny watching them run all the time because if they got caught by one of our abilities they would lose big chunks of health. But I've never been against a real poke comp, so I wanted to do research a bit on it, see how viable it could be.
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Skarner? How does Skarner fit in a poke comp? or is he the initiator that goes in after they have been softened up? Would Ez/sona be better at poking then Nida/Varus? Considering they have more range AND scaling off their poking abilities then Ez and Sona?
He peels ridiculously well if they get near and he can just pull someone right into your group to be murdered, making the TF 5v4 right off the bat. A few teams used him in the World finals in a poke comp if they couldn't get Nunu.
Yes, Ez/Sona is better because of Sona's ult to disengage and Ezreal's escape power. Nidalee still has a place top though if you don't take Jayce.
Not to mention Jayce was really the key element to the poke comp we saw CLG.EU (I thiiiiink it was either them playing it or it was Frost playing against them with it. I forget.) run at WC. He is probably one of, if not the best, poke comp champs you can get.
Jayce has better disengage than Nunu does, tbh. It's not that they only ran him if they couldn't get Nunu. (unless I misunderstood what you were saying.)
I would say AP Nidalee top, AP kog/Cass mid, Merdinger jungle, bot = Taric(because his stun is amazing to allow Nid/kog to poke without missing) a long with Varus.
There's a lot of champions for good poke. Karthus, Xerath is OP, Lux, Zilean, Zyra, Talon, pretty much everyone with a good long range ability that can use it, do damage, and get out safely.
AP Nidalee, Jayce, Gragas, Varus, Ezreal, Xerath, Sivir (?) are all good for poke comps.
ADC: Ezreal, Corki, Caitlyn, Varus, Kog'Maw, Urgot
Support: Sona, Lulu, Nunu, Nidalee
Jungle: Nunu, Diana
APC: Gragas, Lux, Xerath, Cassio
Top: Jayce, Nidalee, Teemo, Vladimir
There are loads more but these are a few I think are worth mentioning the most.
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But a poke comp is all about avoiding the strong initiates, hence the Skarner pull. It's like a Blitz pull (which is also awesome in a poke comp) only requires much better timing. Poke comps want Strong, long range damage and hard disengages. If Skarner can pull someone out of place you can nuke them down and use your disengages to keep the enemy team away, then push hard and force a 4v5.
Top: Jayce, Gangplank, Nidalee, maybe Yorick (for the slow ghoul on disengages)
Mid: Really most mids work, but Zyra, Ziggs, Gragas, Lux, Heimer, Anivia (mainly for the wall), and Ahri
Jungle: Hard CC for disengages....Alistar, Nautilus, etc
ADC: Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Kog
Support: Soraka, Sona
Basically, you need a couple hard-hitting poke bombs in conjunction with heavy sustain to make it work...oh...and did I mention excellent teamwork / movement / positioning? Impossible for soloQ, and even most 5s teams don't do it well enough to be effective.
Also, ban Skarner if you're attempting to do this.
My ideal poke team?
ADC: Caitlyn
Support: Soraka
Mid: Gragas
Top: Jayce
Jungle: Alistar
Cait, Jayce, Gragas all dropping bombs with Soraka's best-in-game sustain, Alistar there for headbutt disengages...good luck getting Alistar AND Jayce in ranked play, though.