Maybe a Shadow Discovery ? ..

[ircien]

http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/...Shadow_Priest/
http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/...Shadow_Priest/

This Shadow priest Антэл is blowing every fucking shadow in Worldoflogs , in feng he fucked the second by 10k almost -_-

BUT his armory shocked me
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...D%D0%BB/simple
4556 MASTERY !! 28% ! he is letting away hast and crit and he is reforging to mastery what the hell is that ?

[Keosen]

Well what it seems that matters is the almost 16k Intellect that he has causing his spells to hit like a track, take a look at the average
DP : 100.000
SWP : 14k
Vt: 16k

All his gear has mastery on it and he reforging every spirit into haste.

[ircien]

Look his waist , he ddnt reforger mastery to crit his legs too chest too

---------- Post added 2012-10-24 at 02:38 PM ----------

specially his waist

[lwalker8]

He appears to be valuing:
Int>SP>Haste>Mastery>Crit

Most of us have been valuing crit over mastery.

Looking at these two parses - both him, he saw significant increases in both his damage to the adds, as well as to the boss himself. A portion of these gains do appear to be related to a higher value of mastery, but they are more significantly related to an increase in spell power.

http://raidbots.com/comparebot/50880...400009c#damage

I am going to attempt using a simple stat priority of:
Int>Haste>Mastery>Crit and see what happens to my DPS on each encounter.

[konway]

Can mastery procs trigger FDCL, DI and Shadowy Apparitions? And if so, do sims account for that?

[Burchoid]

Why/how did he use Mind Sear on Feng... ? Made up over 6% of his damage. Isn't that a single-target fight start to finish?? /confused

:edit: nvm, heroic.

[lwalker8]

My opinion after some basic LFR testing is that mastery is better than crit on fights with multiple targets/mind seer usage. That seems like an reasonable thing to believe, considering you add to mastery's value when you add to your DoTs in a somewhat linear fashion.

[ircien]

ALL GUYS /WAR I discovered for the first time smthng that can make us viable again GO GO G OG OG OG GO

[Keosen]

Why/how did he use Mind Sear on Feng... ? Made up over 6% of his damage. Isn't that a single-target fight start to finish?? /confused

:edit: nvm, heroic.

Also has 2.475.245 damage (8%) from Cascade Oo

[Burchoid]

According to wowprogress, there are less than 25 priests in the world with better gear than him:

http://www.wowprogress.com/character...82%D1%8D%D0%BB

Of those, I'd bet less than half are shadow, and only a handful raid 10 mans. Plus we've only had 1 day of raiding since the reset. All things to consider before jumping to conclusions and dropping all your haste for mastery.

I'd be more curious to see what things look like come the weekend.

[Annesh]

Well, his item level is fucking obscene. So there's that.

[Burchoid]

Also has 2.475.245 damage (8%) from Cascade Oo

On Gara'Jal, yea, not Feng. Also, wtf? Cascade instead of Halo? O_o

[ircien]

this sp is weird and honestly he is one of the best sp's now ..

[shadowkras]

Someone being clever and not following website sims to do all the gearing thinking for them. That never happens!

[ircien]

My opinion after some basic LFR testing is that mastery is better than crit on fights with multiple targets/mind seer usage. That seems like an reasonable thing to believe, considering you add to mastery's value when you add to your DoTs in a somewhat linear fashion.

this is it !! mastery scales extremely well with spell power and even haste

[Deleted]

The difference between Mastery and Crit is so minimal that it almost doesn't matter which of them you choose... these days during progress you just take the items with the most int on it, no matter what the secondary stats are. Also the haste breakpoint brings us 800-1k DPS, but this isn't worth taking gear with much less int on it. Btw, he is NOT reforging more into mastery than haste. The only items he reforges into mastery already have haste on them.

What I found while looking through the logs: They bombed the adds on Feng 4 times, normally you just kill them once. So this log is only for DPS-Boost.
Cascade on Gara'jal is normal because you can use it twice while in the totem phase and it hits nearly every add with the maximum possible damage, halo doesn't.

Also most guilds don't make their logs public during progress. I am doing at least the DPS he does and my gear is a little bit worse than his. So don't get to excited about this "discovery". He is a really good shadow priest and he always has been, but he is not as superior as you might think.

[Sipep]

To many things that point towards just playing better and having the gear. Over saying mastery > crit.

Best example. Антэл has 1% crit more than Neldareth.

[reckoner04]

Someone being clever and not following website sims to do all the gearing thinking for them. That never happens!

He must feel pretty awesome. I know I would... but I don't .

[Arlee]

Kilee posted over on H2P about this and he summed up everything important about it really well so I am going to quote him here.

Finished looking at the thread... a few opinions and speculations follows.

Gear iLevel beats reforging

I see so often people underestimating iLevel and what a tremendous advantage this gives a person over other players. This is a gear-based game. When I look at the priest singled out in that MMO thread, what I see is a priest who is drowning in heroic gear while the rest of the world is nowhere near as geared as him. This guy can do a few things wrong and still get most everything else right, and still come out looking like the "best priest ever".

My theory about people like this is the old addage - "Using a bazooka to kill a fly." This person's gear outranks everyone by such a wide margin that he's going to demolish anything he aims at. We can't really be sure if there's true genius in reforging at work here, or just over-compensating for small issues.

Sims don't match

Nowhere in any sims I've seen show mastery approach crit. This leaves me with two possible conclusions.

1. The sims are not accurately modeling shadowpriests.

2. The sims are correct, and this shadowpriest would have done even more dps if he had been reforged properly.

It's really that simple.

My experience thus far

My experience with multi-dotting so far has given me the following experiences.

FDCL past about 3 targets makes you hit the GCD cap. You hit a point where VT/SW: P starts falling off, and it becomes more important to refresh them and/or cast MB/DP3 than to cast MS. At the same time, FDCL doesn't proc when you want it to, so you end up with many wasted procs back to back before you can use them. Sometimes you're so busy casting other high priority spells, the proc runs out.

The process plays and feels very non-intuitive. As a result of this, I honestly don't feel mastery + multidotting + FDCL is some "magic secret" that we as a community need to keep pursuing.

I think what's more than likely is that there aren't enough priests at this high of level of play yet to offer us any new views. Additionally, I think priests at this level are probably not experimenting much, because they cannot afford to. They find something that works well and sticks with it because each boss attempt, certain results are expected. The raid can't afford several wipes while you mix and match talent specs trying to find which one does the most dps.

Unfortunately, a lot of us are playing in a bubble, and when you play in a bubble, you're always the most awesome spriest you know... it's very difficult to say whether what you are doing is "the best" when that's your only view.

I think we need more data on this. I especially would like to see some type of sim data backing up the idea of stacking mastery.

http://howtopriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2184#p18546

[Deleted]

That shadow priest from Karfagen has always been getting consistent top 5 wol ranks since Wotlk. I'd say he's one of the best shadow priests in the world from what I've seen on logs. No wonder he's a huge step ahead of most other 10man shadow priests.