I can remember the days people asked for more grind
Wow is a grind game, its sad, but its just the way it is
I can remember the days people asked for more grind
Wow is a grind game, its sad, but its just the way it is
∞=0
0/2 = 0 , ∞/2 = ∞
2/0 = error , 2/∞ = error
0*2 = 0 , ∞*2 = ∞
Oh look more TBC babies crying about people crying about dailies. Irony overload.
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I'm not trying to argue here, I quit myself a couple of months ago you see (after just over 5 years)... but why do you feel the need to play to the end of your subscription if you do not like the game? When I'd had enough I just pulled my sub and let my 2 remaining months stagnate while I played Magica/Minecraft/GW2/etc... I really don't understand why people feel the need to play right to the end if they really dislike the game enough to pull their subscription.
I don't see what the big deal is. There was a decent number of dailies at launch yes, but nobody forced you to do them all at once(I did all of them at the same time and the only downside I had was it took a decent chunk of time). Group up when doing dailies, there's not much reason not to and should always be someone doing the daily you're on.
I currently only have shado-pan and august celestials left to do, I even fish up the 3 fish a day for nat pagle it's so little to do.
I'm confused. Are you saying people should be handed stuff, and that working for something shouldn't be part of the process? Sometimes the work you need to do, to earn the reward is to high. You know you do when that happens in the real world? You move job! Do the same. Not enjoying WoW, stop posting, no-one cares, just leave...
This is the smart thing to do if you're not the sort of player who enjoys grindy stuff. Further, while this is not a criticism of you Asmodias, I'd point out anyone who thinks that the principle goal of playing WoW is to achieve efficiency is largely missing the point. It's a game that's meant to be enjoyed, not an exercise in measuring efficiency. I don't now and really never have done dailies every day. And I seem to be able to accomplish just about everything in the game that I want to do. I'm never the first one there but I get there.
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
I liked when the dungeons were hard in cata. I understand the need for change though. Randoms are full of bads and expecting them to complete challenging content was a huge oversight on Blizzard's part. I did the heroics at cata launch with guildies so I had fun but I can see how it would drive the people who don't have a guild up the walls. The people who had the ability to do them were frustrated that they were being grouped with people who didn't have this same ability. And the people that didn't have that ability were crying because it was too hard for them to do. This is why they stated that all randomly queued content from now on will never be challenging anymore and anything challenging with have to be done with a premade group. They want content for all types of players.
not sure if anyone mentioned this.. you dont need lfr gear to do normal / heroic raids either
463 works just fine
guilds were downing normal / heroic bosses as soon as it all went live, and I guaranty they all had 1 epic max if they were doing dailies.. and I doubt all of them were
Too bad. You get some nice normal-raid-level epics in the final quest chains for each of those factions, when you reach exalted.
I just hit exalted on both those factions on my main. My biggest complaint is all the useless coins I got (that you can spend 90/week to get those extra gear roll things.)
BTW, that character has done like 3 heroic 5 mans, but is already 5/6 in MV LFR (reaching the ilvl requirement with a mixture of crafted, PvP, epic quest reward, valor, and few heroic 5 man drops.) I actually prefered grinding out dailies to doing the heroic 5 mans. Weird, I know.
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"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
I think players just have to accept that with the new Blizz MMO in full development WoW cannot ascend to anything more than the mere shadow of its former self we have been seeing for a while now.
All the money, all the talent, all the innovation goes straight to Titan.
Not saying that is not understandable, just saying you dont always get what you pay for. Until a few years from now when you gladly buy their new next gen mmo after years of being trolled by WoW. The cycle closes.
WoW might see some questionable "improvements" like the CRZ's that nobody ever asked for or would have asked for but it's not far fetched to think they just want to test the new tech for their new game out on the existing one even though, for example in this case and for a lot of servers CRZ is not an improvement but has massive detrimental effects. I dont even want to imagine what it will do to MoP zones on full servers once available....
And they always enjoyed "testing" their player reactions. (you dont really think anybody at bizz hq is surprised at warriors and hunters in pvp right now, do you? They are probably having a laugh about it right about now) Then again, as the saying goes 'Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence' ... Either way, Titan cant come quickly enough, I'd like to be able to see and play what I am paying for today :-)
You don't need reputation epics either to queue LFR. There a plenty of alternatives... Justice points items, Dread wastes blue items from quest rewards. There is also Sha (won't even talk about Galleon) and there are all of the heroics gear. To someone with gold, you can buy cheap epics from professions and world drops.
I have heard it over and over and I agree. It's too much Blizzard
I think they catered to the whiners that said didn't have enough to do they made bag space a serious issue, gave us tons of cool stuff we have no room for and jammed everything in our face, like, there...take this and like it.
Don't do them then? I do them occasionally when I'm bored, gaining rep slow and steady. Nobody forces you to do dailies every single day. And I also have unlocked already more gear than I have VP for.