It isn't always ridiculous. The person you quoted was commenting on the dangers of dehumanizing people, especially in the perception of the public.
Even if you thought his post was ridiculous, linking to Godwin's Law isn't saying anything other than "You mentioned Nazis in a comparison!" which is not an inherently flawed thing in itself.
If you read the article you would know why it has a significance in this (and any other) discussion.
It is used to stop people forcing the argument of "Hitler/Nazi's held that idea so you must be wrong".
It's a moronic, lazy and ignorant way to validate your own side of an argument.
Except what Nazis did is directly analogous to state-run executions, supported by a significant % of the population saying "they're worse than animals" or "they're not human", etc. I'm not talking about the victims of these executions now, just the excuses people use to justify it.
Well if we ignore:
The fact that the Nazi's executed those with physical and mental handicaps...
As well as those who were racially different...
Along with those who protested against their rule...
Oh and those who helped and aided jews and the allies...
Along with the fact that I mentioned in the post you quoted that using the analogy of "Well Hitler did X so X must be wrong" is a moronic, lazy and ignorant way of addressing a point and strengthening your own side of the argument...
And the fact we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship, meaning a place where people can freely protest and public outcry can very easily be seen on these kind of issues...
Then yes, they are comparable points.
That would in fact be quite efficient. Also, some people (like me, eventhough my country doesn't do capital punishment) believe that a death sentence is more for the "getting rid of" purpose than the actual punishment part.. Cause let's face it, the only one you punish with a death sentence are the people who care for the sentenced person... Dying yourself doesn't really punish you much, even when awake it only takes a few seconds.
Actually , it was a form of tax , Egyptian citizens would work for short periods of time (quarrying, hauling rocks) then a replacement crew of workers would fulfill their community obligations. Ofc there were also 'skilled specialists' that did get payed.
ontopic, death penalty should only be used in extreme cases where their guilt is above every doubt.
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I also kinda like Penn & Tellers take on the death penalty. It has kinda some swearing in it, but shouldn't be too harsh. But it contains old footage of executions. Beware.
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The Death penalty is completely unethical and unnecessary. Sometimes the only way to protect people is to kill a dangerous person, but not when there are alternatives that accomplish the same exact goal without the unneeded further loss of life.
The death penalty is nothing more than fulfilling people's primal need to witness "evil" being punished under the guise of justice. Justice for whom, I wonder.
Meh, you're right about being able to support the others while not supporting the death penalty. As you can tell from the rest of my post which that quote came from, I was deeply depressed and pretty pissed off. While it sounded like I really care about the death penalty, the truth is it's euthanasia that I really care about. I was attacking the idea that "all life is sacred", which is a common argument used against the death penalty. If a different argument is used like the one you did, that someone might be afraid of sentencing innocents to something irreversible, then my argument doesn't hold up. Even the argument that the death penalty is somehow revenge (I don't agree) would require a separate discussion.
Essentially each motive for supporting or not supporting the death penalty would have to be addressed separately, and me slapping the "intellectually dishonest" label on anyone who doesn't support them all is ironically intellectually dishonest because it doesn't cover all the variables. So in other words, my argument was correct on a smaller scale, but on a larger scale it wasn't because it didn't cover all the reasons people don't support the death penalty. I thought someone had found my quote again, but I see this was just a necroed thread. I figured I'd respond to this now though since I'd be an ass for refusing to admit I was wrong.
Which isn't how the person was using it, nor is that what the law itself says. The law simply states that the possibly of a comparison involving Nazis approaches 1 as the thread goes on longer. That people are using it in as an attempt to discourage Reductio ad Hitlerum doesn't make linking the article a valid form of argument.