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  1. #1521
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Hello everyone, please take a look at my logs (Mythic BoD) and tell me where I can improve. Some early kills on the first few bosses are low due to me lacking in gear and dying here and there. I like you to look at my last 1-2 kills on each boss.

    Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...819300#zone=21
    Armory: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch.../kazzak/Miyaka

    I dont have BiS gear but I feel like I am pretty close to it. I am aiming for high purple.
    I also just discovered https://wowanalyzer.com/ that I will check aswell, but wanted to post here hoping I could get some insight.

    Thanks
    Not too much time so I'll just say what sticks out. To me it looks like you're doing really quite well given your guild's kill times which is always going to be a bit of a limiting factor. The thing I would focus on most is how you need to play around your cooldowns considering fight mechanics and your kill times and the best way to do that is usually to look at how other logs with similar times do it.

    So jadefire as it stands you could get 3 uninterrupted wings with using it after reaching the barrier instead of before, but even then is it worth it? When instead you can have 2 huge wings with cat spawns after 1st and 3rd multisided strikes/with late lust, assuming that pull lust was an accident. Also why you'll see a lot more DP on bosses with moments like this but gambling addictions aren't healthy, stay safe.

    On Grong you kind of do the opposite, it seems like it's a good idea to delay wings for lust and it's good to think like that, but with 4:50 kills you absolutely have 3 full wings and more importantly your adds are spawning 20 seconds in, 2:20, 4:20 so it's a perfect line up.

    If you really care about Opulence then DP and pray for proc city/pay your guildies to stop aoeing.

    Conclave you play really well, just late 2nd pot, maybe some uptime as tanks move around.

    Something else that's an easy couple hundred dps is just abusing shield of vengeance on cd when you can, people can call it degenerate gameplay but if you're exercising common sense it's fine. First boss for instance with unbreakable spirit you can use it prepull, have it break to cons/boss aoe and use it again later on, something to think about with kill times. You also ideally don't want to use it during wings since that's a dead gcd.

    A relatively small thing is using the on-use trinket after full stacks on crusade or of course right away on burst aoe but you should have stacks for that already, and just remembering that it's off gcd so using it on a gcd that doesn't do damage or is low damage like crusader strike is a waste.

    The timeline view on wowanalyzer is good for seeing rotation things, if you're really serious then record yourself and watch it back to see where you delay or drop gcds.

  2. #1522
    Quote Originally Posted by capri sunset View Post
    Not too much time so I'll just say what sticks out...
    Thanks for the detailed response.

    Grong: so 3 wings better than 2 wings + lust?

    Jade: Could you elaborate on the wing usage in this fight. I dont think I will go DP here. GM called lust on pull that one time for some reason.
    When is a good time to lust on this boss?

    Opulence: My guild lusts on the second wave of adds, is this standard? we kill the boss by the 4th or 5th (cant remember exactly). So is it better to use wings with lust or skip lust and instead use wing on the latest add wave (since I will have more stack from Opal gem). Also I will try DP here.

    Conclave: We kill Gronk + Kimbul then lust Akunda. I either use my 2nd wings on Kimbul or hold it and use with lust on Akunda (about 1 min delay). Wich is better?

    Rastakan:
    We CC the adds when they pop then 1 min later we lust and aoe them with boss. Again here either I use my 3rd wings on Rasta alone when phase 3 starts or I delay for about a min and use it with lust on adds. What do you think?
    Last edited by Kisuke42; 2019-04-30 at 02:51 AM.

  3. #1523
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Grong: so 3 wings better than 2 wings + lust?
    Yup, until your guild kills it around 4:30ish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Jade: Could you elaborate on the wing usage in this fight. I dont think I will go DP here. GM called lust on pull that one time for some reason.
    When is a good time to lust on this boss?
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...818&target=110
    So looking at this you can see the damage done to the cats, so roughly when they spawn, unfortunately here it looks like the lust on pull pushed the bomb phase early and delayed the spawn to about 1:05. In this case you would wings around 50 seconds in so it's up for cats but isn't clipped by the 2nd multi-sided strike, then again right after the 3rd multi-sided strike around 3:05 overlapping with 3rd cats spawn and you would even get most of a 3rd wings by the end - this is also something to think about with crusade/inq/dp since crusade is longer.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...818&target=146
    And then in this fairly typical log with a close enough kill time where they could've chosen to use 3 wings but went with 2 we can see no early push so cats spawn at 45 seconds, wings up for that after 1st multi-sided strike. 2nd wings with the ideal lust to burn them down with everyone's cds also overlapping with 3rd cat spawns, huge huge damage.

    Ultimately this isn't a 5k difference type of thing until your guild would be totally skipping your 3rd wings but it's just an example of the things to look for in a fight when planning cds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Opulence: My guild lusts on the second wave of adds, is this standard? we kill the boss by the 4th or 5th (cant remember exactly). So is it better to use wings with lust or skip lust and instead use wing on the latest add wave (since I will have more stack from Opal gem). Also I will try DP here.
    2nd is very standard, but your last kill had so much boss damage that you actually only got 2 sets, using wings as you did was correct not only because of opal but ruby is constantly stacking on the boss too, that's why longer kills here are insane and you'll see people wings 1st set, then wings 3rd set with boss at 150 stacks. Mind that's not a bad thing, it means your guildies are doing what they're supposed to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Conclave: We kill Gronk + Kimbul then lust Akunda. I either use my 2nd wings on Kimbul or hold it and use with lust on Akunda (about 1 min delay). Wich is better?
    Delaying just like you did, you never get 4 wings here and I don't think losing 3rd wings will be an issue anytime soon as the first 2 bosses will start dying faster as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Rastakan: We CC the adds when they pop then 1 min later we lust and aoe them with boss. Again here either I use my 3rd wings on Rasta alone when phase 3 starts or I delay for about a min and use it with lust on adds. What do you think?
    You have to delay here not only because of dps but because it's the priority damage, I think this is just unfortunate until a shorter kill time.

  4. #1524
    Quote Originally Posted by capri sunset View Post
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    Thanks man, I will try few things see how it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke42 View Post
    Hello everyone, please take a look at my logs (Mythic BoD) and tell me where I can improve. Some early kills on the first few bosses are low due to me lacking in gear and dying here and there. I like you to look at my last 1-2 kills on each boss.

    Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...819300#zone=21
    Armory: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/ch.../kazzak/Miyaka

    I dont have BiS gear but I feel like I am pretty close to it. I am aiming for high purple.
    I also just discovered https://wowanalyzer.com/ that I will check aswell, but wanted to post here hoping I could get some insight.

    Thanks
    So I swapped your traits, switched you to an Inquisition build and a few other talents, swapped gems/enchants to Haste (also if you have more haste gear, swap so you can get higher than your current ~11%) but here's a pretty solid DPS gain from your current setup.

    New talents and gear: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/repo...LpsHeD7LCu9hvk

    Old talents and gear: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/repo...KSQ5y5fpsooHPV

    Some other small points: It may seem insignificant, but using Cavalier is a pretty good uptime % gain, which equals to better overall DPS. Also, Righteous Verdict is more my personal preference, but it is still a slight single-target DPS gain. A lot of the bosses in BoD are ST encounters, or encounters where you're going to be using TV over DS anyway. Opulence is sort of the exception but only during small add windows, so RV is still a better choice during the rest of the encounter. Finally, Fist of Justice will get you more HoJs. It's one of the longest duration stuns in the game, get more of it (Especially for Mekkatorque's adds when grips are going to be possibly delayed).
    Last edited by xxcloud417xx; 2019-05-01 at 04:06 AM.

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