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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    What if texas took over mexico? Im sure the people wouldnt mind since they all wanna move to texas anyways. Win win for the mexican people. Lose lose for the cartels and corrupt elected officials.
    Imigrants come to America, not Texas. They want to come here because of what America is, not what Texas will become. Ellis Island and statue of liberty is not in Texas, neither is Plymouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    Internet chatter claiming that Obama gave cell phones to welfare recipients contained a tiny grain of truth.

    Tiny grain of truth? Do they get cell phones or not? PoLOLitico at its finest.
    whats so unclear about that?

    You don't even have to read the whole thing extensively to stumble into the lifeline program:
    Lifeline was created in 1985 and expanded in 2008 during the Bush administration to include cell phone service. An FCC spokeswoman told PolitiFact in 2009 that the 1996 Telecommunications Act required the FCC to create the Universal Service Fund, a pool of money subsidized by small charges on phone bills and redistributed to low-income service programs, as well as programs that bring telecommunications services to rural areas and schools.
    Following that it was then the Obama Admin who actually fixed it..
    In early 2012, the FCC implemented changes to Lifeline aimed at modernizing the program and eliminating fraud and waste. One goal: ensuring availability of broadband for all low-income Americans.
    So there you have it... No truth twisting. and the grain of truth = in relation to the myth that says Obama gives everyone on welfare a free phone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    Internet chatter claiming that Obama gave cell phones to welfare recipients contained a tiny grain of truth.

    Tiny grain of truth? Do they get cell phones or not? PoLOLitico at its finest.
    Here is the rest of it. "The federal government does have a program to subsidize phone service for low-income people. That program, though, existed long before Obama became president."
    Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
    Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
    Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
    And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    It has, but not in a looooong time. Last time we seriously tried was with Castro, and somehow he managed to not get snagged by any of the numerous attempts the CIA made on his life in the 60's, and early 70's. The CIA was officially banned from such practices in the 70's as well.
    Really:

    Just going to start at 1900 and list them all. (many of these where not official by the US government but many where paid for by US Business ventures)

    1908 Venezuela
    1910 Portugal
    1917 Costa Rica
    1920 Russia
    1921 Iran
    1922 Italy
    1923 Spain
    1930 Argentina
    1932 Thailand, Chile
    1933 Uruguay, USA (failed)
    1934 Germany
    1936 China

    (WW2 lots of stuff, Iran, Iraq, Bolivia, British Palestine, All of North Africa, Most of Asia, All of South America)
    Cold War :
    Not going to bother listing by year but by nation because the US would change out dictators every few years.

    Iran, Iraq, Libya, Nigeria, Rhodesia, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Bolivia, Columbia, Cuba, Vietnam, Mexico, Pakistan, Laos, Cambodia, Guatemala, Panama, Chile,... basically any nation that was able to help America place the Stop communism game.

    Much of the reason the Arabs Hate American and Israel has to do with the cold war dictators we put in power. Oh and when the cold war ended, we kept doing it. In fact we haven't stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRobin View Post
    Here is the rest of it. "The federal government does have a program to subsidize phone service for low-income people. That program, though, existed long before Obama became president."
    So your saying the "Our ruling" is inaccurate?

    Internet chatter claiming that Obama gave cell phones to welfare recipients contained a tiny grain of truth: The federal government does have a program to subsidize phone service for low-income people. That program, though, existed long before Obama became president.

    So obama is president and people on welfare/low income qualify for a free cell phone but the original statement only contains a tiny grain of truth? Just saying, if they cant understand this they really shouldnt be checking facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Texas won't leave the union, but even if it did, Mexico isn't exactly the type of country to want to annex anything anymore. It's just not their style, even if their military was a match for what Texas could muster.
    Lol, the Cartels have a bigger military than the Mexican government. Granted I would buy a TV just to watch the live coverage of the Texas vs Mexico war. it would be a LOL fest, tell me it wouldn't be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    So your saying the "Our ruling" is inaccurate?

    Internet chatter claiming that Obama gave cell phones to welfare recipients contained a tiny grain of truth: The federal government does have a program to subsidize phone service for low-income people. That program, though, existed long before Obama became president.

    So obama is president and people on welfare/low income qualify for a free cell phone but the original statement only contains a tiny grain of truth? Just saying, if they cant understand this they really shouldnt be checking facts.
    it is you who doesn't understand...
    Sorry, but we've shown you... If you can't comprehend simple facts and aren't capable to put them in perspective with a false claim then we cannot help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    So obama is president and people on welfare/low income qualify for a free cell phone but the original statement only contains a tiny grain of truth? Just saying, if they cant understand this they really shouldnt be checking facts.
    Yes, because it would take an executive order to end such a program without congress first voting to put it before him. To blame Obama, is to complain that Obama did not over extend his power as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Yes, because it would take an executive order to end such a program without congress first voting to put it before him. To blame Obama, is to complain that Obama did not over extend his power as president.
    What about relaxing the work requirement (looking for a job, having a job, etc) to receive these benefits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    What about relaxing the work requirement (looking for a job, having a job, etc) to receive these benefits?
    Oh, you mean that thing Romney wanted the flexibility to do when he was a Governor?

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    What about relaxing the work requirement (looking for a job, having a job, etc) to receive these benefits?
    What about it? You want them to be gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Texas won't leave the union, but even if it did, Mexico isn't exactly the type of country to want to annex anything anymore. It's just not their style, even if their military was a match for what Texas could muster.
    Theoretical question...
    To my knowledge, every military base of the USA is Federal Property.
    Now, if in theory Texas would break free.. All federal property within Texas could be simply destroyed by the US military. I doubt that they would just abandon the bases..
    And when I think of it... Texas oil.... I don't know that now either, but I can see that there's a high possibility of oil lands that are property of the USA and not state, or privately owned.

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    Sign this petition to Keep the UNITED STATES united and remove Washington D.C. from the United states.

    http://wh.gov/XgYu

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    None of the big cities in Texas would want to leave the union. Austin would certainly fight it. Maybe they could break off southwest but well over half the state wouldn't go for it. People don't realize that over 25 million people live in this state so a few backwoods rednecks and people who don't like the state but live somewhere else signing a petition means nothing.
    Last edited by delus; 2012-11-14 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    What about it? You want them to be gone?
    I believe he is asking the very thing the Obama admin did, by giving the states that asked more control of how to distribute welfare and low income programs, under the permission to decrease the numbers of recipients. You know that thing, the Romney camp twisted around, claiming Obama gives out more welfare, by lowering the requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    What about it? You want them to be gone?
    You should at least have to go to a couple interviews proving your actually trying to gain employment. There is no reason for these people to ever go to work, they will make the same amount of money for not going to work.

    "claiming Obama gives out more welfare, by lowering the requirements. "

    47 million now on welfare (way up) and he did lower the requirements with no requirements...

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    You can't have it both ways. Believing that there are so few jobs people have given up looking for work and thinking people are too lazy to find work are incongruent. You can't be too lazy to find something that is supposedly not there for those who are looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    You should at least have to go to a couple interviews proving your actually trying to gain employment. There is no reason for these people to ever go to work, they will make the same amount of money for not going to work.
    What do you think the unemployment rate is? Is this due to Obama costing us jobs or due to Obama making people not look for jobs?

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    Anyone reminded of this video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delus View Post
    None of the big cities in Texas would want to leave the union. Austin would certainly fight it. Maybe they could break off southwest but well over half the state wouldn't go for it. People don't realize that over 25 million people live in this state so a few backwoods rednecks and people who don't like the state but live somewhere else signing a petition means nothing.
    There was a Rasmussen Poll in Texas in 2009, right after Perry made remarks about how Texas could think it's position over blabla....

    The poll shown 75% of the questioned people did not approve of secession.

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    There isnt a both ways in this situation. You dont have to have a job, you just have to go on a couple interviews every month.

    Allowing people to just stop looking for work benefits our society how?

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