Romney - still focusing on blaming those moochers and minorities

[Porcell]

You really think we can afford to go 1 - 1.5 trillion further into debt every year for the next decade? Oh, and lets tax the rich to make up the difference, you can tax them at 100% and it will only pay for 91 days of spending at the current rate.

The problem is that you present that as your argument, then support a candidate that was calling for 20% across the board tax cuts and another $5 trillion in military spending. How does THAT jive with the debt? Raising taxes on the Rich won't help, but cutting taxes for everyone and increasing spending will help? How does THAT math work?

[darsh333]

Either way, you cannot disregard the fact that the country is in crisis and on the brink of social unrest.
When less than 20% of a country votes for its leader, you know something is wrong...
USA and world needs to awaken to reality or we will fall deeply into tyranny.

Only about 53% of the population in the us is actually eligible to vote of that ~70% voted.

The entire population is not nor should be eligible to vote. I for one don't think my 7 year old brother needs a say in politics.

[Faloestin]

How were they demonizing certain groups just based on their complexion? That is my main point, the only factor would be how different they look, and nothing else. So it would apply to them as well.

I wish that's what Romney and the Republicans had been doing. I think it would have been a better campaign, and maybe Romney might have had a chance of winning that wasn't made up by Fox News. Unfortunately, their basic strategy's been the same since Johnson ran the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress. The short version if you don't follow the link is "white people good, people of color scary and bad."

[SirRobin]

Whenever I think of of the irony behind the conservative/Republican side being largely Christian and trying to push those values on others, I am just reminded of this picture.

Hehe... So true...

[Faloestin]

Why do religious people--whose beliefs offer various forms of eternal paradise vs eternal damnation--complain about someone else getting support by "promising stuff"? Can you possibly get more hypocritical than that?

Yes. Yes, we can get more hypocritical. Thank you for asking.

[Gegan]

Romney is certainly right to blame minorities for his loss. 71% of Latinos voted for Obama, something like 95% of African Americans voted for Obama, and 73% of Asians voted for Obama.

What Romney doesn't understand is why these minority groups are voting Democrat. The Republicans simply have nothing to offer them.

Seems to me like your sentence spells out that he did understand it.

[ptwonline]

Whenever I think of of the irony behind the conservative/Republican side being largely Christian and trying to push those values on others, I am just reminded of this picture.

Heh.

Ah, that image brings back memories. My father is a doctor and when I and my brother were little we used to stay in his office (no daycare or babysitters for us). Boredom galore! Nothing to read but women's magazines and colorful books of illustrated Bible stories someone had given, as they always do. I think I read about Joseph and his coat of many colors about 100 times.

[Dariela]

Saying all blacks are in poverty is racist. Saying those in poverty are made up of mostly minorities isn't.

Saying that would be incorrect, tho. There are more poor white people then poor minorities.

[ptwonline]

The both involve promises to support one thing, in exchange for another thing.

I don't understand why Republicans are against helping others. Isn't that what the bible supports?

Hence why many people keep saying that Capitalism is America's true religion.

[Symphonic]

The both involve promises to support one thing, in exchange for another thing.

I don't understand why Republicans are against helping others. Isn't that what the bible supports?

They're not against helping others. They believe that if something is handed out, you do something in return for it. For example, my view of welfare as a Mormon is that it is important to work for what you get. If you receive welfare from the church, you are expected to volunteer at a cannery or things like that to "pay" for what you have been given. The goal is to help you become self-reliant not greedy/needy.

[Gheld]

Romney is certainly right to blame minorities for his loss. 71% of Latinos voted for Obama, something like 95% of African Americans voted for Obama, and 73% of Asians voted for Obama.

What Romney doesn't understand is why these minority groups are voting Democrat. The Republicans simply have nothing to offer them.

I frankly don't believe it's the governments place to seize my money and then 'offer' it off to people for votes. I for one am sick of generation mooch and if I were American I would have voted for Romney, because he had the balls to call out the moochers.

[Lenonis]

On a side note, how hilarious is it that the most liberal republican candidate ever Mitt Romney was successfully painted as a right wing extremist by the Obama campaign? lols

Please explain to the rest of the class in any way shape or form how Mitt Romney was the most liberal republican candidate ever?

Or, how he could be considered liberal by really any standard?

I'm dying to know.

[Purlina]

They're not against helping others. They believe that if something is handed out, you do something in return for it.

Yes, but is that what the bible teaches? Republicans have such a hard on for religion, but they only follow the parts they like.

[ptwonline]

They're not against helping others. They believe that if something is handed out, you do something in return for it. For example, my view of welfare as a Mormon is that it is important to work for what you get. If you receive welfare from the church, you are expected to volunteer at a cannery or things like that to "pay" for what you have been given. The goal is to help you become self-reliant not greedy/needy.

What if you are unable to work. Say if you are injured or cannot find a job. What are you supposed to do then, starve because you can't really give enough back?

Even volunteering is problematic because on the scale we are talking about you could be doing--for free--millions of jobs that other people could be doing and earning a wage for doing. This creates a self-reinforcing problem.

[Beazy]

Yes, but is that what the bible teaches? Republicans have such a hard on for religion, but they only follow the parts they like.

Republicans and Democrats only have a hard on for religion when they are on TV. . . jesus fucking christ people, you do know that you cant believe anything you see on TV right? Especially politics. I cant fucking believe this is even a discussion.

[fizzbob]

By definition a "minority" won't win you any election...just saying...

all the minorities will

[Symphonic]

What if you are unable to work. Say if you are injured or cannot find a job. What are you supposed to do then, starve because you can't really give enough back?

Even volunteering is problematic because on the scale we are talking about you could be doing--for free--millions of jobs that other people could be doing and earning a wage for doing. This creates a self-reinforcing problem.

Obviously, you'd only do that if able. We don't deny service to anyone (doesn't even matter your religion)

[Purlina]

Republicans and Democrats only have a hard on for religion when they are on TV. . . jesus fucking christ people, you do know that you cant believe anything you see on TV right? Especially politics. I cant fucking believe this is even a discussion.

So that's why the Republicans opposed gay marriages, and abortions?

[Underverse]

Republicans and Democrats only have a hard on for religion when they are on TV. . . jesus fucking christ people, you do know that you cant believe anything you see on TV right? Especially politics. I cant fucking believe this is even a discussion.

Well they're trying to publicly represent the majority of America...

I don't really believe a politician can actually be devoutly religious because of the nature of the job and the intelligence required to complete it. Then again, there are some stupid politicians

[Wells]

I doubt you know enough about Finland to say this.

The opposite has never stopped you.