World first is world first, don't know why you spazzoids jump into threads every day to start the 10v25 debate.
World first is world first, don't know why you spazzoids jump into threads every day to start the 10v25 debate.
We have two brackets, one is 25 man which has many guilds competing in it, one is 10 man in which only seriously competing guild is paragon. Lets just say they are completely different games and stop the pointless argument.
Last edited by Marooned; 2012-11-21 at 07:57 PM.
After they cleared FL a million times on 25. Did anyone expect anything else? They also mentioned this in their articles on the 10/25 debate, which you would've noticed if you read them.
They said the exact same as everyone else has always said - In 10 man its easier to see what's going on but you can't afford to fuck up as much as on 25.
That's why 10 mans seem a lot easier than 25 - You don't invite fuck ups.
Also, as mentioned a couple of times in this thread, they didn't switch because it was easier than 25. They lost too many people to DS boredom. http://www.paragon.fi/news/paragon-w...5man-10man-mop
that's because after a few lockouts in 25s people will have insane gear compared to 10-man raiders.
Most encounters are actually harder in 10-man so stop that crap please.
Not only do 10-mands drop only 2 pieces of loot per boss, but it will be disenchanted a lot more often than in 25s.
10 or 25 doesn't really matter, you people act like world firsts mean something. Newsflash: Defeating pixels is not an accomplishment worth tracking.
The reason why 25 man raiders find 10 mans easier is because they take the best 10 people from their guild to do it. They are not carrying any slackers. Even cutting edge 25man guilds have some avg players hiding on their rosters.
lol 10 man. lol.
You know exactly what you said. -Azshira
Last edited by Azshira; 2012-11-22 at 09:41 AM.
That's just a horrible distortion of truth. The 10man HC clear of Rag was done in the next reset after 25man HC, and before any other 10man guild.
Before Paragon downsized to 10man, I thought there is some truth behind "10man is harder because the kills come slower". But looking at it now, 10 man guild just have no ambition at all. Paragon is alone in the 10man "race".
Edit: I don't want to sound like a fanboy, I actually hate Paragon because they never fucked up when they raided. But it's boring to watch 10man first kills and that can't be denied. Even if the race is so short. One lousy reset but 25man raids actually have some competition among themselves, which should be the norm. The 10man status is just an abomination: to use an analogy is like having a 100meter race finished with 1 guy under 10 sec and the rest over 11 sec.
Last edited by nehunter; 2012-11-21 at 08:56 PM.
Since there is no competition in 10man you shouldn't count Paragon in the global list of course. If blizzard would make a 5man version of the terrace and no serious guild decides to do 5man raids and I clear it world fist with 4 drunk friends I wouldn't be rated either.
It's like saying the Dutch football team Ajax is just as good as Barcalona because they are both champions in their respective countries.
Only because of the Paragon fanboys are people suddenly rating 10 mans.
The difficulty can never be judged because Paragon has no competition, /the end.
Last edited by Outofmana; 2012-11-21 at 08:55 PM.
That doesnt say shit about the difficulty difference of 10/25 man dude.. By that logic 25man should be equally easy if all 25man players are of the highest skill possible.. So in the end its about the players you've got not if you raid 10 or 25 man.
I do believe 25man needs more time logistically cause you've got more players.
You act like little kiddies... get serious and stop comparing the damn sizes!