I'm guessing it comes from the oh thousands or so years of male supremacy, where women really haven't had much right...at all.
The right for education for females are still being fought for around the world, the fight for females having the right to earn as much money as a male, or even work, is still a big issue.
I'm guessing in the bigger picture of things, male problems just don't seem that large.
Not saying we should dismiss them, but saying Male problems around the world = Female problems simply is not true.
Originally Posted by Crabby
"Cures for erectile dysfunction" weren't researched as such. Drugs like Viagra were originally intended to treat chest pain and hypertension. Not cause boners. One of the side effects was a boner that wouldn't quit, even in old men. They decided to market it as such.
.....yet? Never mind, that's not worth it.
You're still operating under the argument that "it's her body". If that's the best justification you have, it's pretty poor. If your concern is for the child then a joint decision on their existence only makes sense. If your concern is for the mother alone then it's nothing but self interest.
The most logical option would be to have non required abortion also be consensual. If the mother wanted an abortion and the father wanted the baby, then the father would be fully liable for all medical costs and care of the mother during the term plus a nominal amount of time for recovery. Afterwards the mother could forfeit all rights to the child.
But it's her body right? No reason to take anyone else's well being into consideration.
You can look through my posts (although I don't post on here often) to see I don't wax philosophic on mmo-champ.I've noticed that the people who use that term most commonly are people who are what they are accusing others of being.
I'd say that the amount of people who consider men's rights a joke is roughly equal to the amount of people who take feminism and women's rights as a joke. Men's studies is a relatively new field, my undergrad university offered courses in men's studies but no major/minor. I know of at least one university that has a men's studies minor.You know the problem is that so many people consider men's rights a joke.
Nobody said that, this discussion is purely revolving about the developed world. So perhaps you'd like to not change the criteria for discussion in order to make a counter argument.
I fully agree with the claim that women's rights internationally are not up to standard, but we're not discussing that right now.
Because the child doesn't concern me. Prior to 24 weeks it's not even sentient. Any argument to the contrary is just moralising bullshit from people with nothing better to do than meddle in the affairs of people trying to live their lives.
Money doesn't cover the pain and suffering component of being pregnant. So, yeah.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
There is a big fence... on one side is a blazing hellfire, on the other is a hell frozen over.
One side has men the other side has women.
The men complain about their problems, the women complain about their problems.
Only a small majority wants to address the problems on both sides of the fence.
Whining is a majority of the discussion and very little progress if any is ever made.
Right, so male problems are:
Not having equal rights for parental rights. Extremely high possibility of loosing the trial for parental right. (Let's face it, few fathers win those trials)
Having a disturbingly high suicide rate from the age of 20-25 which have yet to be properly addressed. (Which is most likely a problem caused by the modernization of how the male should act and behave through the Media)
Has a higher possibility of Jail due to false charges than the female. (At least to my knowledge of cases where the truth comes out later during trials)
In my opinion, the biggest problem is not specifically male or female right when it comes to western countries where we can get a mayhap reliable statistic over these things, my guess would be on the Media bringing forth stereotypes of female and male creating a lot of these problems.
Originally Posted by Crabby