Top Bosses that remained unkilled the longest.

[SirBeef]

I do have to question some of those. I think a few are only so long because of gating. But basically aside from 2 or 3~ exceptions ever since Illidan raid bosses have been downed in roughly 2 resets from the time that encounter has been available. Which, not saying anything at all about the game or the difficulty of encounters or anything like that, was a little disappointing after paying attention to the world first Ony/Rag/Nef kills in Vanilla. I don't think Vanilla's somewhat broken content was "better", but when a guild got a world first back then it did feel a bit more epic IMO.

Don't forget there was not a ton of accessible info on raid bosses back then, and top guilds didn't extensively raid test encounters like they do these days.

[Chaelexi]

Updated for this tier.

I see a lot of misinformation out there regarding how long bosses took to die so I thought I'd recreate this thread. DISCLAIMER: This thread is not trying to measure difficulty.



These are from the date it was possible to begin working on them, or the previous hard mode was killed. I'm sure people might quibble with some of them but I did my best. Going with 25-mans here.

This is obviously not indicative of their relative difficulty but it's interesting. Lots of caveats of course. Like Ulduar's design lending it to people being able to progress anywhere and various limited attempt bosses.

The reason Yogg-Saron and Mimiron count from the opening of Ulduar is that from day one it was possible to immediately go in and begin working on Alone in the Darkness. With other bosses it was 100% impossible to start pulls testing them out until the previous boss was slain.

#1 Ouro - 87 days from the Twin Emperors' death. (1 day from C'thun's death) 26th April 2006.
#2 C'thun - 86 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 25th April 2006.
#3 Yogg-Saron, Alone in the Darkness - 83 days from General Vezax's death. (39 days from STARS' previous Ulduar kill) 7th July 2009
#4 Nefarian* - 75 days from Chromaggus' death. 26th September 2005. (15 minute respawn between attempts)
#5 Ragnaros* - 74 days from Majordomo Executus' death (Limited Attempts). 25th April 2005.
#6 High Astromancer Solarian - 59 days from Magtheridon's death. (24 days from Death Wish's previous tier 5 kill) 24th April 2007
#7 The Four Horsemen - 56 days from Gothik the Harvester's death to D&T's kill. August 25th 2006
#8 Lady Vashj* <Coilfang Matron> - 54 days from being unlocked. 5th May 2007 (17 days for Nihilum's bugged kill)
#9 Al'ar <Phoenix God> - 48 days from Magtheridon's death. 13th April 2007
#10 Heroic The Lich King* - 42 Days from Heroic Putricide's death (first pull). March 26th 2010 (Limited Attempts)
#11 Viscidus - 41 days from Fankriss the Unyielding's death. 5th March 2006.
#12 Heroic Al'Akir - 38 days from being unlocked. (3 days from Paragon's previous tier 11 kill) January 22nd 2011.
#13 The Lurker Below - 37 days from Gruul's death. (5 days from Morogrim Tidewalker's death.) 12th March 2007.
#14 Algalon the Observer* - 33 days from Firefighter. June 3rd 2009. (Limited Attempts)
#15 Morogrim Tidewalker - 32 days from Gruul's death. (1 day from Fathom-Lord Karathress' death.) 7th March 2007.
#16 tied Kael'thas Sunstrider <Lord of the Blood Elves> - 31 days from Solarian's death. 25th May 2007
#16 tied Heroic Cho'gall - 31 days from being unlocked. (13 days from 3/5 Bastion of Twilight) 15th January 2011.
#16 tied Fathom-Lord Karathress - 31 days from Gruul's death. (2 days from Leotheras' death.) 6th March 2007.
#19 tied Magtheridon - 29 days from the first 70 raid kills. (21 days from Gruul's death) 24th February 2007
#19 tied Leotheras the Blind - 29 days from Gruul's death. (16 days from Hydross' death) 4th March 2007
#21 Heroic Nefarian - 25 days from being unlocked. (13 days from 5/6 Blackwing Descent) January 9th 2011.
#22 Mimiron Firefighter - 17 days from the opening of Ulduar. (8 days from Ensidia's previous Ulduar kill) May 1st 2009
#23 Ra-Den* - 16 days from Lei Shen's death. April 11th 2013 (Limited Attempts)
#24 Void Reaver - 15 days from Magtheridon's death. 11th March 2007
#25 Loatheb - 14 days from Heigan's death. 17th July 2006
#26 tied Heigan the Unclean - 13 days from Noth the Plaguebringer's death. 3rd July 2006
#26 tied Hydross the Unstable <Duke of Currents> - 13 days from Gruul's death. 16th February 2007
#28 tied Mythic: Kil'jaeden <The Deceiver> - 12 days from Fallen Avatar of Sargeras' death. 16th July 2017.
#28 tied Majordomo Executus - 12 days from Golemagg the Incinerator's death. 10th February 2005.
#30 tied Heroic Ragnaros (Firelands) - 11 days from Heroic Majordomo Staghelm's death. July 19th 2011.
#30 tied Onyxia - 11 days from the first 60 raid kills. January 19th 2005
#32 tied Archimonde <The Defiler> - 10 days from Azgalor's death. (6 days from Nihilum's previous tier 6 kill) 9th June 2007
#32 tied Gothik the Harvester - 10 days from Instructor Razuvious' death. 30th June 2006
#34 tied Heroic Spine of Deathwing - 9 days from Heroic Blackhorn's death. 22nd December 2011
#34 tied Mythic: Archimonde <The Defiler> - 9 days from Mythic Mannoroth's death. 16th July 2015
#36 tied Sapphiron - 8 days from Four Horsemen dying. 2nd September 2006
#36 tied Gruul the Dragonkiller - 8 days from Maulgar's death. 3rd February 2007
#38 Magmadar - 7 days from Lucifron's death. 26th January 2005
#39 tied Mythic: Argus the Unmaker - 6 days from mythic Aggramar's death. December 13th 2017.
#39 tied Reliquary of Lost Souls - 6 days from Supremus' death. 2nd June 2007
#39 tied Heroic Lei Shen <The Thunder King> - 6 days from Twin Consorts' death. 26th March 2013.
#39 tied Heroic Garrosh Hellscream <Warchief> - 6 days from the death of the Paragons of the Klaxxi. 30th September 2013.
#43 tied Kel'Thuzad - 5 days from Sapphiron's death. 7th September 2006
#43 tied Kil'jaeden <The Deceiver> - 5 days from the opening of the third Sunwell gate. 25th May 2008
#43 tied Mythic: Fallen Avatar of Sargeras - 5 days from mythic Maiden of Vigilance's death. July 4th 2017.
#43 tied Sinestra - 5 days from Heroic Cho'gall's death. January 20th 2011.
#43 tied Mythic: Blackhand <Warlord of the Blackrock> - 5 days from mythic Blast Furnace's destruction. February 20th 2015.
#43 tied Mythic: Gul'dan <Lord of the Shadow Council> - 5 days from mythic Elisande's death. February 4th 2017.
#43 tied Mythic: The Blast Furnace - 5 days from mythic Oregorger's death. (1 day from Method's previous Blackrock Foundry kill) February 15th 2015.


Honourable Mentions:
#50 Heroic Anub'arak* - 4 days from Heroic Twin Val'kyr's death. September 6th 2009. (Limited Attempts)
#50 M'uru/Entropius. 4 days from the opening of the second Sunwell gate. 4th May 2008
#50 Heroic Sha of Fear. 4 days from the death of Heroic Lei Shi. 24th November 2012.
#50 Heroic Dark Animus. 4 days from the death of Heroic Primordius. 17th March 2013.
#50 Thaddius. 4 days from Gluth's death. 30th June 2006.


Thanks to SK-Gaming's handy list of all time world firsts and wowprogress.com.

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/163...rld_first_list

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Ouro was mere hours after C'Thun was killed and neither should count since it was impossible to actually kill them pre-fix.

[Nitros14]

Jaina lasts just under six days. Slightly longer than mythic Blackhand and mythic Fallen Avatar of Sargeras. Slightly less than heroic Lei Shen and mythic Argus.

[Demeia]

You guys can't read.

It's kind of shocking, really. The list just gives some data, clears up some questions.

[Hulkovius]

What does days have to do with anything. The number of wipes must be the most important aspect.

[Nitros14]

What does days have to do with anything. The number of wipes must be the most important aspect.

Do you have a wipe count for any boss 10 years ago?

[Hulkovius]

Do you have a wipe count for any boss 10 years ago?

Thats a relevant question how? My point is the top guilds nowadays or since cata can manage to squeeze a hell lot of more wipes in between resets now. Which makes it irrelevant comparing days since its not effective time wiping and the progress is getting more and more extreme for each tier.

[Nitros14]

Thats a relevant question how? My point is the top guilds nowadays or since cata can manage to squeeze a hell lot of more wipes in between resets now. Which makes it irrelevant comparing days since its not effective time wiping and the progress is getting more and more extreme for each tier.

This is all true. But the point of this thread isn't to compare them difficulty wise, just to clear up misinformation like "M'uru took three months!" when it was actually four days.

[Battlebeard]

There are so many factors that cannot be seen in these numbers.

The best example is that we have Heroic Ragnaros on spot 30, but it's the hardest boss in the game's history, without a doubt. Kiljaeden (Legion) on 28, and he is prolly second hardest of all time. And Mythic Jaina on 43, when she is prolly top 5 hardest bosses ever.

[Nitros14]

There are so many factors that cannot be seen in these numbers.

The best example is that we have Heroic Ragnaros on spot 30, but it's the hardest boss in the game's history, without a doubt. Kiljaeden (Legion) on 28, and he is prolly second hardest of all time. And Mythic Jaina on 43, when she is prolly top 5 hardest bosses ever.

The list isn't measuring difficulty.

Mind you, everything I've heard leads me to believe Kil'jaeden was harder than Ragnaros.

Personal opinion Top 4 hardest bosses at release:

Mythic Kil'jaeden
Mythic Archimonde (before the ring it took Method 500 pulls, it got excessively trivialized by nerfs)
Heroic Ragnaros
Alone in the Darkness (guilds had three months of gear before it died, only 10 guilds on wowprogress killed this before the big nerf)

[Declaron]

I know this isn't the point of the OP but since the subject came up, Heroic: Ragnaros was by far the hardest boss ever made.

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Also, how come G'huun is not in the list?

[Nitros14]

Also, how come G'huun is not in the list?

G'huun was up three days after Mythrax died.

[trapmaster]

Why are we bringing this up back because? What's so impressive about boss becoming unkillable the longest when now we have almost most bosses already killable in under a week. Time changes mate. Move on.

[Kokolums]

The first boss I looked at was Magtheridon from BC. I remember that was totally unplayable for me because my FPS went under 5 most of the fight. You had to have a decent computer to do the channelers.

[mickybrighteyes]

Ouro was mere hours after C'Thun was killed and neither should count since it was impossible to actually kill them pre-fix.

in order C'thun is the last boss no C'thun... hell Twin Emps could arguably also be after Ouro except for the fact that Ouro was optional and skipped due to being unkillable.

[KaPe]

I know this isn't the point of the OP but since the subject came up, Heroic: Ragnaros was by far the hardest boss ever made.

Considering the nerfs Kil'Jaeden *and* Avatar of Sargeras got before they were killed, this is highly doubtful. If KJ was untouched, he'd survive until Antorus - if not BFA.

[Nitros14]

Considering the nerfs Kil'Jaeden *and* Avatar of Sargeras got before they were killed, this is highly doubtful. If KJ was untouched, he'd survive until Antorus - if not BFA.

It's somewhat similar to C'thun. Except they fixed Kil'jaeden in a week instead of nearly three months.

[KaPe]

It's somewhat similar to C'thun. Except they fixed Kil'jaeden in a week instead of nearly three months.

C'thun was bugged, his mechanics that didn't work properly, with enemies spawning inside walls and so on. That's different from KJ, who worked "fine", but his tuning was so absurd there was no chance of killing him without any changes.

As for Ragnaros, we don't know about any drastic changes, except for Blizzard admitting they didn't think about triangle strat, but they left it in because they liked it. So they did intend for him to be even harder, but ultimately decided against it.

[babyback]

The first boss I looked at was Magtheridon from BC. I remember that was totally unplayable for me because my FPS went under 5 most of the fight. You had to have a decent computer to do the channelers.

Correct. Everyone in our raid had to pan the cameras towards the wall when doing the cubes due to the FPS drops.

[Nitros14]

Hey, Restless Cabal reaches one day. Who saw that coming?