Maybe they reckon that most of the customers likely to want an LGA CPU upgrade only every second generation, so they might alternate BGA/LGA releases?Broadwell is the die shrink of Haswell... If it's anything like Sandy Bridge -> Ivy Bridge, you may end up skipping Broadwell entirely. The article also mentions that the successor Sky Lake will revert back to the socket system too.
Imo you'll see very few variations in each motherboard. Take Asus for example. I imagine that their Rampage or Maximus e-ATX motherboard will use the 3570k/3770k equivalents; any other variations are probably not going to exist at all for that motherboard.
Basically, you're probably going to see motherboards made to 'fit' the processors; you won't see each existing motherboard 'made to fit' to every damn model, and it's damn right naive if you ask me to expect more than a total of three variations of the same motherboard at most.
EDIT: Realize I misread. Fixed stuff.
Last edited by Drunkenvalley; 2012-11-28 at 12:45 AM.
Yeah, you'll probably see something along the lines of:
The H77, Z75, B75 chipsets would have ranging from the G2120 to the i3 3220, maybe lower tier i5 like the 3330
P8Z77-V LX + i5 3330-3450
P8Z77-V LK + i5 3450-3550
P8Z77-V LE + i5 3570 or i7 3770
P8Z77-V, -V Pro, -V deluxe, -V Premium, Sabertooth, RoG + i5 3570K or i7 3770K
They might be nice and give the P8Z77-I Deluxe a 3570K/3770K, given that they went to the trouble of building a secondary PCB for VRM components.
Last edited by Butler to Baby Sloths; 2012-11-28 at 12:57 AM.
lets put it in todays terms, if you could buy a i5-3570k presoldered on a decent mobo for 300, or a fx 8150 with whatever mobo you want for right around 300$ as well what would you do? i would certainly get the i5..if its your choice to get it the amd then so be it(not saying i support this idea at all though, i just want the best money can buy for the dollar)
Intel i5-2500k@4.4ghz
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Gigabyte N560OC 1gb gpu
Corsair 2x4gb
Antec v2 Two Hundred
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate
Razer Naga
Doubt pricing will be like that tho, that is about 80-100 dollar for a mobo. Thats quite low end, for me anyway. And lets compare it with the 8350 atleast :P But ye i would prob still go for AMD. I get your point tho, i think you are a bit to positive in the pricing on that one. But we just have to wait 2-3 years to see if it actually happens.
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They will never get past governmental agencies with it - this is simply not environmentally sound. For consumer laptops, I am all for pre-soldered stuff, as it decreases the size, cost and also arguably increases reliability; and there is no real reason to ever upgrade it provided the initial configuration is meaningful. But for professional grade computers like workstations and servers, individual parts must be replaceable.
Might be bga only because maybe they're not considering to release broadwell onto desktops at all. After all it's just pretty much a die shrink and they're certainly not in a hurry to release the current shrink, ivy bridge, to the LGA2011 platform. Next time they might feel it's not even worth it for desktops at all.
Indeed. A single psych core from SB is like twice as fast as a single FX core. Forget the virtual cores now.
Both @ 5GHz, used psych cores only
1. 2600K 1core enabled, GPU usage 14% & 8FPS - http://i.imgur.com/aSjG6.jpg
2. 2600K 2cores enabled, GPU usage 54% & 35fps - http://i.imgur.com/Y5EVK.jpg
I'm starting to wonder if that 8350 is going to hold it.
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If by the word generation you mean die shrinks, sure. If by generation you mean -actual- architecture changes, then no. 10-15% would be horrendous.
Regardless, Vishera is fine. The 8320/4300/6300 absolutely dominate Intel at the $200 and below segment. Majority of the nonsensical bashing of them stems from people that have only been following building and components for less than 2 years. AMD has dominated a handful of generations at every price point, so has Intel. It goes back and forth.
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You couldn't be more wrong. Intel really is nearly twice as fast on single thread performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ...s=551&i=38.344
This is why AMD processors suck donkey balls on games.
Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
Trolling should be.