Patch 5.1 BMAH Additions, Madness of Deathwing Solo, Blue Tweets, Weekly Roundup

[chaud]

Um... Chaud, I really don't want to sound like a dick, but some of those tweets (the ones I recognize right away: The general Class tweets and the Mage ones) are from weeks ago. RoP Castable on the Move even says Nov 24th... >.>

Again... 20+ day old tweets posting on the front page like they are news. There has been six+ tweet summaries posted since some of these tweets summarized today were posted. Including one 2 days before the patch (5.1) the tweets (posted a week before that summary) talk about went live.

We are burning through old ones in the queue and trying to catch up. Anything older than mid/late Nov is only included for context.

Most people don't read his Twitter account daily.

Chaud- in the list of items that you've made there's the marking section stating "Black Market" or "Looted / Black Market" but the Flametalon of Alysrazor is the only mount marked as not looted as well as BM;AH bought = )?

For some reason we haven't seen anyone loot it in ~3k kills, I'll have someone take a look this week.

[Kazuchika]

Because if you worked hard as hell for something you SHOULD be able to be a "special snowflake" about it. And you know what? I don't care if you don't like that. You can move to Cuba and enjoy your communism bullcrap there.

Logging in before Wrath and killing a joke of a boss in Karazhan isn't "working hard" for anything.

Also communism? Really?

On a related note.. the people who would buy the Uld drake are probably the same idiots who buy the Argent Tournament pets listed there for 3 times what they have sold for on the AH for years.

[Lemons]

Wow...I didn't know GC cared about rogue people. I would love to live in a world were only a choice few AoEs broke stealth. It's been way too easy to break stealth ever since Wotlk...because that was the expac that AoE really got out of control. Some classes have/had AoEs and cleaves baked into their single target rotations (like when paladins used to use Divine Storm on cooldown). It's a bit better now, but not by much. It's still way too easy to break stealth without really even trying.

[snakeeyesma81]

What fucking pricks bringing back the plagued protos. YOU COULDNT just give veteran players the plagued and black proto drakes could you? you simply fucking couldnt.

Whats next? the Black proto drakes too?

Assholes.

LOL at the use of the term 'veteran' with a QQ over a WRATH mount. Anyway, normally i'd agree with keeping the rarity, but as a mount collector that didn't seriously start raiding till late naxx, i didn't get one.... now i would be ok with that if they had then taken out the other wrath achievement mounts i DID earn, which they did not. All i'm saying is it should be the same all across the board, take em all out or none of them...

[Sava]

Some things should've not been touched and Arcanite Ripper is one of them.

Agreed. Now my character means fuck all. GG blizz, you shallow cuntz.

[Felshen]

I really wanted the plagued proto drake in WotLK, and my guild was a few achievements short of it before its removal in 3.1. Tons of players asked for some way to obtain it post-patch, but Blizz said they wouldn't do it. Now that they finally do....it's BMAH? :/
That's probably the lamest way to reintroduce it.

[nnelson54]

OHH, FFS THEY HAVE REMOVED Reins of the Rusted Proto-Drake ALSO WHATS NEXT IRONBOUND, LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULDN´T...FFS BLIZZTARD, GONNA REMOVE RED AND GREEN PROTO DRAKE ALSO , WHY NOT REMOVE ALL PROTO DRAKES ALL TOGETHER, THIS IS JUST SIMPLY TARDED....

I love that you're just so upset about this addition that you had to copy and paste the name of the item you were upset about.

Also, I'm sure I'm not alone when I say... what?

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Agreed. Now my character means fuck all. GG blizz, you shallow cuntz.

The entire basis of your character's worth was that you owned an Arcanite Ripper?

[Notos]

Agreed. Now my character means fuck all. GG blizz, you shallow cuntz.

As someone who has the Ripper (undead slaying set too ) on one of my pallies, I'm glad for the opportunity to get one for my other toons.

[Adramalech]

Isn't Iron-Bound still in the game? I know they only took out the Naxx ones, not the Ulduar ones as well.

Both the ironbound and rusted are still awarded by ulduar's meta achievements. The rusted on the BMAH is much like the cheap pets that Breanni puts there for 10k, it's there for high prices, but can still be obtained the normal way.

Blizzard have new technology which allows the player to tone down their item level to a certain amount in challenge modes, this feature could surely be ported over somehow. If this happened, would you then be happy? No content is being removed (if anything it is saving more content, as players have to run the raid instead of just going to the BMAH), the effort required stays the same, and those who are hungry for epeen can get their mounts before anyone else at the same rate as per usual, meaning they have nothing to complain about.

I would be fine with such a system. However, I doubt it would work very well for one reason. There is a reason why old content is visited so much, to the point of warranting changes to make some bosses soloable. People go there because they have fun farming old content and collecting drops (be it transmog sets, mounts, pets, transformation items, reputations, titles, the challenge of beating certain bosses solo, you name it). I, too, do this. It's one of the things I enjoy doing, especially when I have a friend or two with me. Doing such a scaling system "blocking" access to mounts would tremendously reduce old content usage, in my opinion, to the point where old content raids would once again become obsolete unless you were, again, in a guild capable enough to defeat these challenges. The whole purpose of old content farming is really "easily smash through old content for cool looking cosmetic rewards", or in the case of people like Mionelol, doing harder solo challenges simply for the challenge of it. A scaling system, even if optional, would ruin many people's fun, at the cost of keeping vanity items unique for people who only want to have exclusivity. I wouldn't mind such a system, but it would surely screw up with some gameplay I consider fun, and many others do, as is evident.

In the end, you and I have different opinions on this matter. And that's fine. It's only when people, like those I was originally quoting a few pages back, treat this trivial matter like it's an apocalypse and generally act like assholes, that it warrants a bit of arguing. I guess the two of us can just agree to disagree without issues

[Vintersol]

Both the ironbound and rusted are still awarded by ulduar's meta achievements. The rusted on the BMAH is much like the cheap pets that Breanni puts there for 10k, it's there for high prices, but can still be obtained the normal way.

And it's made in < 2 hours....

Anyways, oppa Blizzard style, cater all to everyone.

[High King Argorothiis]

to all you people whinging about what gets put up on bm ah just stop all your doing is showing how much of a dick some of you are we all pay to play and we have a right to get what ever we can in this game even if its removed the bm ah is not just some big giant gold sink blizzard is using to round up stolen/bought gold what about those of us who have worked our buts off to earn our gold huh what are we supposed to do with it blizzard answered tht by giving us a chance to get rare and unique items some of which have been removed from game i understand alot of people's annoyance but as blizzard said themselves for the people who genuinely earn their gold if they place the bid and win above everyone else who bids then they deserve that item they are chasing not all of us have stolen/bought gold and we deserve to use our gold on what we want and thanks to blizzard we literally can for once it would be nice if people just stopp'd complaining about almost everything blizzard does you guys really are ruining wow.

[fonzatron2000]

to all you people whinging about what gets put up on bm ah just stop all your doing is showing how much of a dick some of you are we all pay to play and we have a right to get what ever we can in this game even if its removed the bm ah is not just some big giant gold sink blizzard is using to round up stolen/bought gold what about those of us who have worked our buts off to earn our gold huh what are we supposed to do with it blizzard answered tht by giving us a chance to get rare and unique items some of which have been removed from game i understand alot of people's annoyance but as blizzard said themselves for the people who genuinely earn their gold if they place the bid and win above everyone else who bids then they deserve that item they are chasing not all of us have stolen/bought gold and we deserve to use our gold on what we want and thanks to blizzard we literally can for once it would be nice if people just stopp'd complaining about almost everything blizzard does you guys really are ruining wow.

I'am desperately looking for any punctuation.

[Azutael]

I don't understand that they think it's ok to add back stuff through the black market AH, but not through doing old content.
A low droprate from the end-boss of a raid or dungeon would make them just as rare, and not exactly farm-able.

Selling something for absurd amounts of gold (thinking of the average player anyway), only promotes gold selling and buying. And if not that, to drive the economy up so much that you don't have a chance without becoming an "AH baron" yourself, which is silly.

[Outofmana]

Don't ever put my black proto on it as well please, you already ruined tier3.....

[Lumocolor]

Bring back black proto drake please not plagued and to all whiners that say they worked hard in naxx all i have to say is lmfao.

Ya getting Immortal before they removed the mounts wasn't hard at all

[popolo]

Why is it acceptable to bring back a mount that took a moderate amount of time/luck/skill to get? You might all laugh now saying how easy naxx 10/25 were, when you're obviously the 99.99% of the WoW population that doesn't have that mount. Immortal/Undying might sound like easy achievements, but they were incredibly hard when naxx was current content. (KT's frost blast on your heals)

Why not bring back the Scarab Lord mount? That took no amount of skill to get and was mostly a guild effort, yet it only rewarded one person in most cases.

[mxwha0]

You guys are seriously hilarious thinking that clearing naxx 10 was just how you magically got the plagued drake.
The hardest part was Sarth 3D 10. There's a very good reason why an extremely small percentage of players have it. Making it simply buyable would be fine if it didn't mean that every player who obtained it legitimately suddenly came into question.

[rogueMatthias]

Why is it acceptable to bring back a mount that took a moderate amount of time/luck/skill to get? You might all laugh now saying how easy naxx 10/25 were, when you're obviously the 99.99% of the WoW population that doesn't have that mount. Immortal/Undying might sound like easy achievements, but they were incredibly hard when naxx was current content. (KT's frost blast on your heals)

Why not bring back the Scarab Lord mount? That took no amount of skill to get and was mostly a guild effort, yet it only rewarded one person in most cases.

TBH, the achievements were left in for long enough that they were already cheesed. The Scarab Lord Mount, sacred as people hold it, was SO overly easy by the time it was removed, that in one of the last gates about 1000 people were meant to have all got it. (thus speeding up its eventual removal)

Both of these things are really about the time you happened to be a raider rather than having had more skill at the time than people do today. I don't see why things like "The Immortal" can't be applied to a NEW tier raid, which would have the exact same difficulty in getting the achievement as the first time it was out.

[alabaster jones]

ouch, you know I honestly believed they'd never give away my plagued proto, silly me

[ringpriest]

That's buying gold as much as I'm a tooth fairy.

Not to mention that it's a topic that has been beaten to death more than "mages are op!!!!1".

Care to explain how the Guardian Cub is not a Blizzard-authorized cash for gold option?

1. Pay $10 for Guardian Cub
2. Put Guardian Cub on Auction House for Gold.
3. Collect gold.

Perhaps some readers who are still playing can check their AH's and see how much gold $10 buys right now?