View Poll Results: Should America go metric?

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• Yes, and I'm American.

320 26.00%
• No, and I'm American.

144 11.70%
• Yes, and I'm NOT American.

741 60.19%
• No, and I'm NOT American.

26 2.11%

1. Originally Posted by ashankt
America is inching its way to the Metric system...
I see what u did thar!

2. Originally Posted by Skizo
It isn't as practical as fahrenheit for measuring comfort using the scope that you are suggesting. 0 degrees fahrenheit means wear thick clothes. 100 degrees fahrenheit means wear light clothes. 0 degrees celcius means wear thick clothes. 100 degrees celsius means that you're dead. It simply isn't as practical in measuring human comfort on a 0 to 100 scale.
The systems are different and neither one is wrong, they just go to show different things.
100 celsius does not mean you are dead. Ever hear of this thing called a "sauna"?

3. Originally Posted by Muzjhath
The only difference between Kelvin and Celsius is where the 0's at. The magnitue of each degree is the same, everything. It's just that when dealing with common day temperatures Celsius make's more sense to us with how our mind works. Zero is a tangible number to work out from. Which scientists do when using Kelvin. It doesn't do it when you work in a kitchen, or look out side to see if the water is freezing.
So if you want Kelvin you should be just bloody fine with Celsius since it uses the same magnitude of scale, only have a different zero. They just have different practicalities.
There is no point switching to Celsius from Farhenheit. If we are switching to be 'better', then Kelvin is the best scale, no reason to go from one to another mediocre measuring system.

---------- Post added 2012-12-14 at 06:28 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Bantokar
100 celsius does not mean you are dead. Ever hear of this thing called a "sauna"?
Uhm... I'm pretty sure once the water starts boiling you start getting burns.

4. You will die in 100 C, dont try it.
Sauna usually have in the 60-90 range, only humidity causing it feel hotter.

Regarding the time we use 3 quarters 12 means 3 quaters of the hour already passed from 11 to 12 o'clock.

I know sometimes we get jokes that half 10 should be only 5 o'clock.
But everybody knows what it means, the passing of current hour, the 60 minutes.

5. Originally Posted by Kobor
Sauna is not going over 100 C, you will die there.
They have mostly around 60-90 range, can change the humidity in order to feel hotter.
Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_sauna "Taking a sauna begins by washing oneself up and then going to sit for some time in the hot room, typically warmed to 80–110 °C" I've been in over 100C sauna myself and I'm still alive. You obviously can't live in heat like that, but it's fine for short perioids (usually 30mins - 1h) of time.

6. Ok you will not die at once, but since our body consist of water mainly that extra 10 C is probably durable because of the isolation of our body.

Page later tell this
"The temperature in Finnish saunas is 60–100 °C, usually 70–80 °C"

I like hot saunas, but never tried over 100.

---------- Post added 2012-12-14 at 12:49 PM ----------

Ok you will not die at once, but since our body consist of water mainly that extra 10 C is probably durable because of the isolation of our body.

Page later tell this
"The temperature in Finnish saunas is 60–100 °C, usually 70–80 °C"

I like hot saunas, but never tried over 100.

7. As a European I feel very comfortable with the metric system. I, however, have a fascination for imperial units and can handle them pretty well, despite them not having any practical use here.

On the contrary, I just can't get behind Fahrenheit. It's point 0 is today absolutely arbitrary and was supposed to be absolute zero, a claim that failed to be true. And for those who prefer Kelvin over Celsius... you realize Kelvin is parasitic to Celsius? The difference between 3K and 4K is the same as the difference between 3C and 4C.

8. [QUOTE=Kobor;19441967]Ok you will not die at once, but since our body consist of water mainly that extra 10 C is probably durable because of the isolation of our body.

Page later tell this
"The temperature in Finnish saunas is 60–100 °C, usually 70–80 °C"

Yea, I don't actually enjoy saunas that hot either but you gotta try it at least once. Also related guy dies at sauna competition. Their starting temp was 110C! and they stayed in forever, well that was the last sauna championship held here. WARNING pretty gruesome imaginary even though that's from a news cast.

9. Originally Posted by Mayhem
and i appreciate the "austrian friend"
and that, despite me being Frankonian (Northern Bavarian).....

LOL.. now we've thrown them all off... Gotta be German and Austrian to know about our "love" for one another.

10. Originally Posted by Kobor
Ok you will not die at once, but since our body consist of water mainly that extra 10 C is probably durable because of the isolation of our body.

Page later tell this
"The temperature in Finnish saunas is 60–100 °C, usually 70–80 °C"

I like hot saunas, but never tried over 100.

---------- Post added 2012-12-14 at 12:49 PM ----------

Ok you will not die at once, but since our body consist of water mainly that extra 10 C is probably durable because of the isolation of our body.

Page later tell this
"The temperature in Finnish saunas is 60–100 °C, usually 70–80 °C"

I like hot saunas, but never tried over 100.
Actually with the proper water intake you can maintain 100 degrees for a pretty damn long time. Check out some of those finnish Sauna freaks, thay are pretty crazy. Tried 120 myself but i grew up with a sauna in the house, so guess I was a bit more used to it than regular joes

Also look at proffessional MMA fighters that go into Saunas with thermals and training suits on to cut water weight (not to healthy)

11. Originally Posted by obdigore
There is no point switching to Celsius from Farhenheit. If we are switching to be 'better', then Kelvin is the best scale, no reason to go from one to another mediocre measuring system.
There's a very valid point. And that is the univeral use. The whole world uses the metric system. You just get in line, for a better, universal understanding.

Like I pointed out before. I believe, and I'm actually pretty sure that the USA has been sued on international court over the usage of their non-metric system in trade.
It caused problems over and over again. The metric system is just much easier and in regards of products a lot more precise.
When it comes to extremely precise numbers then it's a lot more efficient to count in fractions of millimeters than in fractions of inches.
As an example.... A Micrometer...
in metric. it is precisely 0.001 millimeter
and approximately 0.000039 inches.
in high end/high tech precision about and approximate have no place. Precision is precision. No error allowed. It can be fatal.

12. Originally Posted by Wildtree
There's a very valid point. And that is the univeral use. The whole world uses the metric system. You just get in line, for a better, universal understanding.

Like I pointed out before. I believe, and I'm actually pretty sure that the USA has been sued on international court over the usage of their non-metric system in trade.
It caused problems over and over again. The metric system is just much easier and in regards of products a lot more precise.
When it comes to extremely precise numbers then it's a lot more efficient to count in fractions of millimeters than in fractions of inches.
As an example.... A Micrometer...
in metric. it is precisely 0.001 millimeter
and approximately 0.000039 inches.
in high end/high tech precision about and approximate have no place. Precision is precision. No error allowed. It can be fatal.
Because no one ever makes measuring mistakes in metric.

13. Originally Posted by Flutterguy
Because no one ever makes measuring mistakes in metric.
Thats not really what he is talking about. He is talking about the difference between an exact measurement and an approximated measurement. Not about making mistakes.

14. Originally Posted by Bantokar
Thats not really what he is talking about. He is talking about the difference between an exact measurement and an approximated measurement. Not about making mistakes.
They're both exact measurements.

15. Originally Posted by Flutterguy
Because no one ever makes measuring mistakes in metric.
Very few.. and in high tech there's a high quality control in place.
As for Germany, we have that control even perverted.. I admit that right away.
You cannot produce ANYTHING without being subject to a Norm catalog.
For everything you will find a norm, which is essentially law. Depending on the level of precision, the room for error ; read allowed tolerance ; can be as little as 0.005%.

So now, from there it is a lot easier to stay within that tolerance, when you deal with micro measurements.
And do not ignore the first key sentence. We are not talking about simple stuff. We are talking about trade goods...
You know, there's not a single country that is self sustained. ALL Countries living from Import and Export.
The latter is where the money is... The more you can export, the more income you produce.
If you make stuff at your own pleasure and likes, no one else can use it.. No one else will buy it.
Now, for the import... If you live isolated from the international standard, no one can sell you anything. Because no one can afford to make things specifically tailored for you. Twice the amount of machinery prep time? Not profitable.
So, if country A cannot sell you goods, why should country A buy your goods preferably?

The world works differently... And I said that too already a few pages earlier.. if you pay attention when you shop, you will find metric information on packaging of most goods in the USA.
There's only one reason in my opinion why the country hasn't fully switched yet, and that's that Carter had just one term as President. He was the last President who pushed for the total switch, nationally. Internationally that change took already place.

16. Originally Posted by Wildtree
Very few.. and in high tech there's a high quality control in place.
As for Germany, we have that control even perverted.. I admit that right away.
You cannot produce ANYTHING without being subject to a Norm catalog.
For everything you will find a norm, which is essentially law. Depending on the level of precision, the room for error ; read allowed tolerance ; can be as little as 0.005%.

So now, from there it is a lot easier to stay within that tolerance, when you deal with micro measurements.
And do not ignore the first key sentence. We are not talking about simple stuff. We are talking about trade goods...
You know, there's not a single country that is self sustained. ALL Countries living from Import and Export.
The latter is where the money is... The more you can export, the more income you produce.
If you make stuff at your own pleasure and likes, no one else can use it.. No one else will buy it.
Now, for the import... If you live isolated from the international standard, no one can sell you anything. Because no one can afford to make things specifically tailored for you. Twice the amount of machinery prep time? Not profitable.
So, if country A cannot sell you goods, why should country A buy your goods preferably?

The world works differently... And I said that too already a few pages earlier.. if you pay attention when you shop, you will find metric information on packaging of most goods in the USA.
There's only one reason in my opinion why the country hasn't fully switched yet, and that's that Carter had just one term as President. He was the last President who pushed for the total switch, nationally. Internationally that change took already place.
So you want to make sure you're getting the exact amount of cheesy poofs that the bag says it contains?

17. Originally Posted by Wildtree
There's a very valid point. And that is the univeral use. The whole world uses the metric system. You just get in line, for a better, universal understanding.

Like I pointed out before. I believe, and I'm actually pretty sure that the USA has been sued on international court over the usage of their non-metric system in trade.
It caused problems over and over again. The metric system is just much easier and in regards of products a lot more precise.
When it comes to extremely precise numbers then it's a lot more efficient to count in fractions of millimeters than in fractions of inches.
As an example.... A Micrometer...
in metric. it is precisely 0.001 millimeter
and approximately 0.000039 inches.
in high end/high tech precision about and approximate have no place. Precision is precision. No error allowed. It can be fatal.
The real difference is that the metric system is scalable, we can create any <prefix>meter if we have the need and it will be the previous divided or multiplied by 1000. That's why we do have a units like the micrometer or the nanometer, they were created when we had the need to. The imperial system is based on tradition and is fixed.
Behold, I'm creating right now the unit "Gigameter", it is one million kilometers.

18. Originally Posted by capitano666
The real difference is that the metric system is scalable, we can create any <prefix>meter if we have the need and it will be the previous divided or multiplied by 1000. That's why we do have a units like the micrometer or the nanometer, they were created when we had the need to. The imperial system is based on tradition and is fixed.
Behold, I'm creating right now the unit "Gigameter", it is one million kilometers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigametre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

A list of all the prefixes, if someone is interested in them.

19. NO It is way to complicated, image the logic that 10mm = 1 cm and 10 cm =1 dm and 10 dm = 1m.....

20. Originally Posted by Santti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigametre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

A list of all the prefixes, if someone is interested in them.
See? I didn't even know it existed, it is just that easy

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