Why not just add ONE word to the phrase to make it easy to understand. For example "Half past 12" would be 12:30, and "Quarter to 9" would be 8:45. I can't help you with "3 quarters 12" though, I'd probably respond with "sorry, I'm American and ignorant, can you please just point me to a watch".
Naftc, "Hunters are the cheapest class in game and when played right are more deadly than a train plowing through a field of bunnies covered in napalm"
If I am not mistaken the USA was trialed some 10 - 15 years ago, over being out of line with the international standard.
And as far as I know the court case went in favor of the international community. USA trade goods must have metric information alongside..
I've definitely seen an increase on packaging with metric information even on groceries in the supermarket.
Even milk does not longer only say 1 gal. Just gotta pay attention and you will notice.
Last edited by Wildtree; 2012-12-14 at 10:23 AM.
Thank you for the personal insults, they're clearly furthering your argument.
Please quote me where I said that using celsius to determine what clothes to wear is hard.
I said that fahrenheit was a more practical system to use to measure human comfort on a 0-100 scale, and that the systems were different and that there's nothing wrong with that. Imperial isn't used alone in business and science anyway. It's used colloquially and is part of our culture and creates a kind of solidarity and uniqueness to the states.
I honestly have no idea why you're taking this so personally that you feel the need to attack me...
What you said is used, like I pointed out... It's not as easy with time specification in Germany, as our austrian friend said.
The reason? Laziness. Southern Germans and Coastal Germans are lazy with language. Everything has to be simplified.
But don't worry too much. I've not seen someone translating that stuff literally, when they talked english or any other language in that matter.
It's strict national.
I wasn't asking what it feels to human at 0 fahrenheit. I know how it feels. Checked how much that is, which is -17.7 celcius. No such winter here when it isn't past that with ease. I have to admit, I worded it poorly. But 0 celcius is just more handy. That's when water freezes, meaning you have to drive carefully, as the roads can be slippery with ice.
Last edited by Santti; 2012-12-14 at 10:34 AM.
To the debate about cold and the temperature scales....
Zero Degrees..... The value at which water freezes.... An absolute number even. A neutral if you will.... No positive, no negative. From there on out, either forward or backwards, things come to "live" again. Zero is a void.
Whereas now for Fahrenheit.... 32
32 is a positive number. 32 equals 0C, water freezes.... It's for humans hella cold. In fact, without proper protection we will not survive in that temperature for very long.
How can negative conditions be expressed, or defined if you will, by a positive number? There's nothing positive.
0 Fahrenheit.... What's that mean in human terms?
Does it mean zero business to leave the house anymore?
For someone living through and with both systems.. I can handle the transition just fine. But the temperature measuring in the USA with Fahrenheit is a clusterfuck for me.
It throws me off for 15 years already, and will another 30 years. With everything else I could get used to pretty fast and fine, with the temps it's a weird thing.
Meh, I was talking to someone from NZ and she was saying it was 28 degrees and they were going swimming, and my reaction was 'you have a polar bear club? awesome!'. It is only odd or confusing if you haven't literally used it your whole life. I maintain there is no difference in how 'good' it is between F and C. If we want a real measurement of temp, we should all switch to Kelvin :P
aint nothing wrong with that, though i´d say it only describes human comfort well because you know what that numbers relate to, if you had no clue what 32F ment, you´d freeze your ass off, it´s not 1/3 of your body temperature, it´s 100% below your body temperature
fun fact, i know a bunch of people from northern germany and they understand everytime i´m talking about when raid starts and when it ends, some guys from between southern and nothern germany had issues with "quarter 12" but not too long *g*
and i appreciate the "austrian friend"
Last edited by Tyresias; 2012-12-14 at 10:51 AM.
Don't nerf the system for the bads!
And also convert to ISO dating yyyy-mm-dd and that goes for certain European countries too
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Celsius scale is not any more logical than Fahrenheit scale is. The temperature of freezing water is just as arbitrary as the temperature of salted ice. Kelvin scale on the other hand is logical, at least from the 0 point perspective. It just so happens that the scale of it is the same as the Celsius'.