Time to discuss gun regulation in the US?

[Spectral]

True but are you compairing mexico and estonia with the US ?

Because I sure as hell know there is a big difference.

If I'm going to make a data predicated on OECD data, I'm going to just show it all, then point out why Mexico and Estonia are high. Excluding unwanted data points is just dishonest.

[wpken]

I don't care if criminals have guns, I care that crazies have guns.

Wake up USA, protect your kids from your own misinterpretation of your constitution.

Wake up USA, GUNS DO KILL PEOPLE.

So do cars, which isn't actually the best argument. there are plenty of people who shouldn't drive that do unfortunately. I think me and you agree but your argument is effectively redundant. If you put a bullet through someones head, or a pencil through someones head, is there really a difference? The Joker doesn't think so. Guns by themselves won't kill people, they aren't smart-guns (yet, oh god the thought of such a world that WILL exist). Such as how a car by itself won't kill people, or how a plastic bag by itself won't kill a person. People with bad intentions can take whatever they want to exact their desires, albeit guns do seem pretty much the only thing specifically suited for killing, anything can kill anybody. Just let that sink in...

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

its NOT A FACT... no matter how many times you say it... repeating it a million times wont make it a fact...

Simple question for you... if guns all by themselves kill people then tell me how many people did the 2 dozen guns in my safe kill today?

Are you intentionally being stupid or do you actually think that he was saying that guns literally act on their own?

So do cars, which isn't actually the best argument. there are plenty of people who shouldn't drive that do unfortunately. I think me and you agree but your argument is effectively redundant. If you put a bullet through someones head, or a pencil through someones head, is there really a difference? The Joker doesn't think so. Guns by themselves won't kill people, they aren't smart-guns (yet, oh god the thought of such a world that WILL exist). Such as how a car by itself won't kill people, or how a plastic bag by itself won't kill a person. People with bad intentions can take whatever they want to exact their desires, albeit guns do seem pretty much the only thing specifically suited for killing, anything can kill anybody. Just let that sink in...

The point is that guns are a tool that enable killing on a much larger scale. To go back to the pencil, how quickly can you write A-Z using a pencil versus typing it in Notepad.

[Spectral]

if guns all by themselves kill people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[Tradewind]

its NOT A FACT... no matter how many times you say it... repeating it a million times wont make it a fact...

Simple question for you... if guns all by themselves kill people then tell me how many people did the 2 dozen guns in my safe kill today?

Probably zero, but the day isn't over yet. But I do know that the legally owned gun belonging to a Mother and Teacher killed 27 people today after her son stole it and shot up a school.

[Seranthor]

I just want to hear the justification for owning such weapons. A semi automatic hand gun for self defense? Sure. An assault rifle? . . . why? Do you honestly need an AR-15 to defend your house from burglars? Wouldn't a hunting rifle, a hand gun or a shotgun be just as effective?

Or are you that paranoid that the ebil gubmint will come and get you with black helicopters in the middle of the night?

question for you miss... what weapons were used in the OR shooting? the school shooting today? offer that information. Next, have you considered even one bit that the the decay of personal responsibility in society is caused by the government that wants to run everything in the lives of the masses thus teaching them that they have no responsibility for their actions?

[Zallex]

Why are you talking to liberals as if they are left wing? The definition of liberal has always been less gov. control, less regulation, opening borders and taking away trade barriers.

The term for that is "Libertarian" I dont know where you are from (dont care) but here liberal has been related to big government, more spending, ect.

If you dont like my terminology then just replace "liberal" with "socialist"

[Gothicshark]

An IQ test? Are you even serious? Lol.

Yah the Republicans would hate that. After all the meme hoax proved what Fox viewers IQs where

[Adam Jensen]

I refuse to attack you for your your position, nor will I insult your intelligence and knowledge. I'll ask you this, What is the point in having a law if you aren't going to enforce it? Why make a new one if you dont follow the original one? Next. I would like to know what gives you the right to attack and insult people that dont agree with your position?

Nearly 100 people every day are killed in the US by automobiles... So, tell me, we should ban them right? Of course not.

Are cars vital and necessary for day to day errands? Yes.
Are guns vital and necessary for day to day errands? No.

[Spectral]

Next, have you considered even one bit that the the decay of personal responsibility in society is caused by the government that wants to run everything in the lives of the masses thus teaching them that they have no responsibility for their actions?

Considered and rejected.

[KCguy]

There was barely any shootings decades ago, maybe once a decade. Then once a month, now it's weekly. Gun control is pointless now. America is in too deep.

[Deleted]

Gogogo, kick that queen off her throne!



Because meth kills the user, not an innocent who doesn't want anything to do with it.

All we need now is mech suits in order to carry such a heavy weapon around plus ammunition.. Will it really hit a nickle at 2 miles as originally claimed?

[Kraenen]

its NOT A FACT... no matter how many times you say it... repeating it a million times wont make it a fact...

Simple question for you... if guns all by themselves kill people then tell me how many people did the 2 dozen guns in my safe kill today?

So the person killed those kids through telekinesis?

[Adam Jensen]

Car accidents, at least most of the time, are not due to malevolence on the part of the driver, but due to negligence.

Gun violence is ALMOST ALWAYS due to malevolence.

The car analogy does not work at all.

[Seranthor]

More ignorance. The greek people didn't spend more than euros than they could take in, their government did and HID that with goldman sachs cooking the books. Now the people are asked to pay for it by the bankers in the EU who don't want to take a fucking haircut even after they are the cause of it. The EU is run by the capatalists. I'd love to see a real communist, you people wouldn't know one if it beat you up in the face. Hell the greeks don't want the fucking bailout either, they know what it means to take that bullshit. Their sick of austerity being shoved upon them by the germans and their banking masters. They'd rather leave the Euro. Or better find a party that will fight for what they want. A real left party. Not sure if Syriza is that party but syriza is a coalition party and it does have those elements.

Really? it was the Greek government in the streets rioting when the government tried to cut spending? Really? Please. the entitlement society that is pervading Western Civilization will be its downfall... just like Rome.

[Kraenen]

The term for that is "Libertarian" I dont know where you are from (dont care) but here liberal has been related to big government, more spending, ect.

If you dont like my terminology then just replace "liberal" with "socialist"

Eh, whatever. I know what the terms really mean. I use their original definition. It's like calling native americans "indians" simply because "here, indians means native americans. and indians also means indians".

[lolo855]

NO it will never be time for strict gun regulations in America. We have somthing called the second amendment here in the USA. If all u fucking european communists don't want to have guns then fine!! just don't come crying to me when someone breaks into your house and you have no defense. Honestly don't u socialists have bigger things to worry about in your own country?????? LOL eu debt crisis


Also what alot of people are forgetting is making guns illegal will only take away guns for law abiding citizens and not for criminals!!!
Making guns illegal would just create a black market for them just like there is a giant black market for drugs.

As for all you liberals living in the US, maybe you should be angry about Obama giving away guns to violent MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS instead of getting riled up that law abiding citizens can own one.

Yeah communist Eu rofl, and ty for the debt crisis, since your country is mostly responsible for it.

Also you can't grow guns, in case you didn't know, There is no special industry that produces illegal guns, no legal guns produced means no illegal gun's or at least a lot less of them.

Also My house got broken into when I was home. But guess what they didn't have a gun since it so much harder to come by, but I did have a giant metal stave in my hands, so they were quick to run out and leave my house alone.

What would have happen din your case is that someone who prob have pulled a gun to you and it would have ended in a bloodbath.

[ugotownd]

guns in Chicago only come from Chicago, mirite?

Then that would be an illegally owned gun in Chicago. I live in jersey that still carrys the stupid assult weapon ban. I cant go to PA where there legal and buy one and its automatically legal in NJ. Once again pls learn before talking.

They need to ban the 1st amendment so the news will shut up. They make these incidents out to be huge news and talk about it for three weeks and the shooter is famous for those weeks. Well the next moron thinking of doing this sees his fame and has to upscale to make it better. Tell why you never hear about the good with guns on the national news. Why because its there agenda to have gun bans. Same why you never heard the good about Romney only the bad and exact opposite for Obama. They only cover what goes to there agenda.

[Kraenen]

Really? it was the Greek government in the streets rioting when the government tried to cut spending? Really? Please. the entitlement society that is pervading Western Civilization will be its downfall... just like Rome.

So are people not entitled to their guns? But wait, you said the entitlement society will be our downfall...Are you secretly against people having the right to own guns?

[Seranthor]

Last I checked you can't vote if you have a felony on your record.

tell that to Al Franken in Minnesota that was elected because felons were allowed to vote.