Mega-Thread: Gun Control Thread

[Zan15]

that and I also want the attack on magazine size to make it to supreme court.

better hurry the way its looking by mid 2021 the court is going to have a whole lot of new members with "different" views then the current make up by election day.

[PC2]

better hurry the way its looking by mid 2021 the court is going to have a whole lot of new members with "different" views then the current make up by election day.

lol, you're counting your chickens before they hatch. That's a recipe for disappointment.

[Zan15]

lol, you're counting your chickens before they hatch. That's a recipe for disappointment.

Very true.
If it does not work out then I am going dark for about 4 years and going to pay no more than $750.00 to the IRS :P

Senate seems to be the only weak point in the plan.

[the game]

I kind of want a 50 cal Barrett Rifle but don't want to spend $10k on a rifle. So instead I'm putting money away for a desert eagle.

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Guns for home defense explained.

[Ghostpanther]

I kind of want a 50 cal Barrett Rifle but don't want to spend $10k on a rifle. So instead I'm putting money away for a desert eagle.

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Guns for home defense explained.

I have seen that video before. It's a good one. Backs up my stance the AR-15 is a excellent home defense firearm. But the ammo choice is important. Of course there will be those who will disagree.

[Specialka]

If you are surprised, a handgun is quicker to aim than a rifle, especially at those ranges. If you are waiting for someone to get into your aim, then yes, a rifle could be seen as stronger for that purpose.

A rifle is also bigger than a handgun, so it is comes to hand to hand combat, it is easier for your opponent to catch your gun while you can use your free arm with a handgun to repel him or at least hold him while firing with the other hand.

On a more practical note, what are your thoughts about the XT22 from Merlin ? Is it considered a good weapon for having fun at a firing range ?

[Draco-Onis]

lol, you're counting your chickens before they hatch. That's a recipe for disappointment.

Meh if Roe V. Wade has shown anything there's more than one way to skin a cat you guys keep wanting blue states to be like red states when it comes to the gun control that's simply delusional.

[Svifnymr]

If you are surprised, a handgun is quicker to aim than a rifle, especially at those ranges. If you are waiting for someone to get into your aim, then yes, a rifle could be seen as stronger for that purpose.

A rifle is also bigger than a handgun, so it is comes to hand to hand combat, it is easier for your opponent to catch your gun while you can use your free arm with a handgun to repel him or at least hold him while firing with the other hand.

To an extent, but in either case, you'll be tucking the gun close to you rather than having a rifle stick out to it's full length or a pistol held at full weaver stance or whatnot.

On a more practical note, what are your thoughts about the XT22 from Merlin ? Is it considered a good weapon for having fun at a firing range ?

Marlin was part of the Remington bankruptcy split up and was bought by Ruger. I'm not familiar with the XT22 directly, but it is bound to be a good rifle as Marlin's designs are good stuff. You're unlikely to find one around right now, and not sure if Ruger will continue them. Ruger make the American Rimfire which is slightly more money, but also excellent. I have one of them and it shoots great, lots of fun.

[Daelak]

Great link showing the calm and collected composure and training of a responsible gun owner defending himself from lethal force. Mental health checks should never inhibit ones ability to brandish a firearm.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...647017984?s=19

[the game]

Meh if Roe V. Wade has shown anything there's more than one way to skin a cat you guys keep wanting blue states to be like red states when it comes to the gun control that's simply delusional.

and blue states want red states to be like blue states when it comes to gun control.

[Stelio Kontos]

I'm probably picking up a shotgun this week.

This last few months in the Pacific Northwest has me worried how the Left will take the election if they lose. Worried about a CHAZ or Portland redux, but even more violent and more widespread. I doubt there's an issue out here on the Kitsap peninsula, but I'd rather have one and never need it than need one and not have it.

[the game]

I'm probably picking up a shotgun this week.

This last few months in the Pacific Northwest has me worried how the Left will take the election if they lose. Worried about a CHAZ or Portland redux, but even more violent and more widespread. I doubt there's an issue out here on the Kitsap peninsula, but I'd rather have one and never need it than need one and not have it.

Which shotgun you going to get?

[Stelio Kontos]

Which shotgun you going to get?

It's been a while since I handled weapons, back in my army conscript days, so I'm going for pretty basic for a first one.

Either a Beretta A300 or a Mossberg 500 Tactical.

[Draco-Onis]

and blue states want red states to be like blue states when it comes to gun control.

But realistically there is no such thing since even the bluest of states have conservative population that dwarf even the reddest of states. The problem is the balance that once existed in politics no longer exist since the right has gone off to Qanon level deep end.

[Ghostpanther]

I'm probably picking up a shotgun this week.

This last few months in the Pacific Northwest has me worried how the Left will take the election if they lose. Worried about a CHAZ or Portland redux, but even more violent and more widespread. I doubt there's an issue out here on the Kitsap peninsula, but I'd rather have one and never need it than need one and not have it.

Do not blame you. The Mossberg 500 is a great shotgun. Not sure about where you live, but many firearms are hard to get. Also ammo.

[Stormdash]

better hurry the way its looking by mid 2021 the court is going to have a whole lot of new members with "different" views then the current make up by election day.

If it even comes up, which is far from settled, it's the kind of move that guarantees a 2-years-and-out for Democrat control of the Senate. When polled, adding seats to the Supreme Court is about 60% opposed. Everybody knows it's dirty pool. "Court packing" has been an epithet since FDR was rebuffed trying it (the country that let him round up the Japanese wouldn't let him pack the Court, that should be a warning of history). Nobody in the general public is buying the "ackshually, filling seats that are already open with people we don't like is the real court packing" nonsense. All of which is to say, you'd have Democrats with election in '22 who would be very resistant/reluctant.

But honestly I don't expect this to come up at all.

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But realistically there is no such thing since even the bluest of states have conservative population that dwarf even the reddest of states. The problem is the balance that once existed in politics no longer exist since the right has gone off to Qanon level deep end.

More liberals have heard of Qanon than conservatives, generally speaking. Which is to say, it exists primarily as a left wing boogeyman not a right wing conspiracy theory or ideology.

[Draco-Onis]

More liberals have heard of Qanon than conservatives, generally speaking. Which is to say, it exists primarily as a left wing boogeyman not a right wing conspiracy theory or ideology.

That is just delusional the president of the US is talking about them on a regular basis and you have elected a Qanon crazy that is going to win her election and be a member of congress. How can you say it's a boogey man from the left when you are putting these nut jobs in congress?

[Felya]

More liberals have heard of Qanon than conservatives, generally speaking. Which is to say, it exists primarily as a left wing boogeyman not a right wing conspiracy theory or ideology.

That doesn’t make sense... There are tons of posters at Trump rallies about Q. The root of it is PizzaGate or is that also something only left knows about? Since this topic is guns, the entire concept of the thread is predicated on an imagined thread of a boogie man coming for your guns. A threat, that is inherent in QAnon ideology... Gun control is a gateway conspiracy theory to QAnon. Just like Birtharism, pizzagate, Soros, flat earthers and just about any other conspiracy theory.

But, as I said... the only relevance QAnon has to the thread, is that government coming for your guns is a gateway conspiracy to QAnon.

[the game]

That doesn’t make sense... There are tons of posters at Trump rallies about Q. The root of it is PizzaGate or is that also something only left knows about? Since this topic is guns, the entire concept of the thread is predicated on an imagined thread of a boogie man coming for your guns. A threat, that is inherent in QAnon ideology... Gun control is a gateway conspiracy theory to QAnon. Just like Birtharism, pizzagate, Soros, flat earthers and just about any other conspiracy theory.

But, as I said... the only relevance QAnon has to the thread, is that government coming for your guns is a gateway conspiracy to QAnon.

Is joe biden and kamala harris lying then?

[Felya]

Is joe biden and kamala harris lying then?

No, the pundits who depend on the conspiracy, curating your news or social media that is causing it. I’m sorry, this started in 1994 with the assault rifle ban, because the NRA realized that their tact of funding both parties, including Joe Biden, was ineffective. Instead, they chose to refocus on a segment of politics. After a few mansions for NRA top brass... we are here... no guns being taken away, but a lot of well curated videos.

You know what they say... follow the money...

I thought this was an effective form of gun control:

Trading Guns for Toys
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/28/o...-for-toys.html