When the gun lobby the ability to torpedo a surgeon general nominee because of his views on gun control, you know this country is fucked.
But I get it. The NRA's just looking out for the people!
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Considering that Doctor seemed to advocate documenting gun ownership on medical records, I can't blame them for trying to stop him from being the Surgeon General.
To your question though. I'm not sure off hand. I could look it up I'm sure. But honestly not in the mood. Working graveyard kills the soul a bit.
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.” - General James Mattis
I know, right. Why should our doctors know if someone diagnosed with a mental disorder also owns a firearm?
I'll help you out. It's never happened.To your question though. I'm not sure off hand. I could look it up I'm sure. But honestly not in the mood. Working graveyard kills the soul a bit.
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"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.” - General James Mattis
Because I said that, right? That logic....
That's not even close to accurate, and complete misrepresentation of what he actually said.And it sounds to me that he wanted to get gun info from anyone and everyone, not just those with mental issues.
I asked you for evidence. You supplied none. Because you can't. Because it's never happened.And please don't go there with "It's never happened." Please. Just don't.
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I explained why I'm not in the mood to find evidence for you good Sir. If no one has presented evidence by the time I get into work tonight, I'll look it up myself.
And that is what you implied.
"I know, right. Why should our doctors know if someone diagnosed with a mental disorder also owns a firearm?"
Why would you need to know if someone with a mental disorder has firearms if you weren't concerned about them killing someone? Seems pointless to gather that data if it will serve no purpose eh?
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.” - General James Mattis
I am worried about them killing someone. I don't think people with mental health disorders should have access to firearms.
What I didn't say was "mental issues automatically mean you are out to kill people."
No. It doesn't mean you're "automatically out to kill people." But it certainly increases the risk. 79% of mass shootings since 2011 are accompanied by claims of mental illness.
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What makes this thread "OFFICIAL"? Quit using sensational titles.
by "mind-reader" you mean the fact that some doctors are asking all patients, regardless of mental health, whether they have firearms or not?
even going to the extent of asking peoples children whether or not "mommy and daddy have guns in the house"?
I understand when they have a patient with actual, documented, mental health issues, that will willingly answer that question, but for the average healthy Joe in there, it is none of their god damn business to even ask. I would damn sure get a new doctor if mine ever asked that.
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since the antis here love this one...the vast majority of these happened in areas with strict gun control. Even the ones in the "pro gun" states happened in areas that banned weapons...just putting that out there lol.
Oh i know, i know, you have this idea that more guns are bad and if someone tried to stop a crazed gunman they would end up shooting innocent people too, so places should just ban guns...either way...your idea obviously isn't working either.
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Oh?
He's the president and co-founder of Doctors for America. And one of their recent campaigns, "Docs vs. Glocks" seeked to do exactly that.
The mods changed the title and have been merging other gun control threads into this one for a while now.
It's "OFFICIAL" because it's official.
Also, the fact that it's on page 1418 and has the second most views/replies currently in this subforum should tell you something.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
I was specifically referencing his tweets following Sandy Hook. And the dude hasn't ever said that he wants to "get gun info from anyone and everyone."
The Doc vs. Glocks law sought to add gun ownership to medical records. That's it. Only a completely paranoid and delusional fool would be against something like that.
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You were specifically responding to a line of discussion started by the statement:
You mentioned mental illness patients, TwoNineMarine said all patients, then you responded with what I originally quoted.
Nobody else was talking about tweets. Your attempt to backpedal here is duly noted.
Privacy is privacy. Guns are not a medical concern until and unless that person is deemed to be a danger to themself or others.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
The line of discussion started with my original post, referencing an article discussing why there's so much backlash. Said article referenced the comments he made that "expressed support for gun control in the wake of the Newtown shootings." His comments were made via tweet.
And yet still, even if we went with TwoNineMarine's comments....the good doctor has never stated what TwoNine, or yourself, have claimed.
Paranoia is paranoia. When a person become diagnosed with a mental health disorder, I suppose it would be good to know whether or not they possess firearms.Privacy is privacy. Guns are not a medical concern until and unless that person is deemed to be a danger to themself or others.
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