I think you're underestimating double purge, you clear targets of buffs instantly, putting a CD on it would be a big nerf. returning it to 1 removal only makes the game stupid thugh 25% chance to instantly get rid of BoP and 25% chance to not getting it off during the entire duration isn't fun at all. Spamming purge for 10 globals as ele doesn't come without a cost as you all like to think though. We don't have great passive mana regen as mages.
Not sure where you're getting this awesome survival against casters from either. Last time I checked still died in a deep freeze+blanket silence combo. Or any stun->silence for that matter.
so completely countering people by spam purging them with no real resource cost to yourself is balanced? i faced a warr/enhance/hpal a few weeks ago where the shaman literally did nothing but spam purge on me to keep my SH stacks off for the entire match.
either they
A. put a cooldown on it or
B. make it have a significant mana cost, like half your mana bar significant.
" I need a sec, my wrists hurt from spamming slam so hard. Playing cleave vs cleave is tough stuff guys"
I disagree. It's a necessary utility to be able to score a kill in 2's. Especially when playing against a warrior + healer. If you add the healers hots/buffs atop the warriors self heal it's quite a bit of healing done. So scattershot/freeze trap/capacitor totem/frog + purge are at times the only way for me to be able to dps aswell and drop him for good.
Putting a CD on it would make it as mindless as you purport it to be now. Instead of using it 2 or 3 times at the start, you will be using it every x seconds instead. The GCD cost is more than enough for any serious arena team, who will want to prepurge so they can make more effective swaps. But it still needs to go for Resto.
RETH
make it 30% of shamans mana, done. keep the double removal.
I think you're underestimating double purge, you clear targets of buffs instantly, putting a CD on it would be a big nerf
clearly
i play a pretty crappy spec, with people who also play crappy specs, we seem perfectly capable of scoring kills in 2s with out an offensive dispel
also
2s.
" I need a sec, my wrists hurt from spamming slam so hard. Playing cleave vs cleave is tough stuff guys"
Agreed. The mana cost should be significantly higher IMO - 5 steals on a mage makes them go OOM. Should be similar for all offensive dispels game wide; and double purge should not exist. It makes negation of druid healing far too easy. I think purge should be 1 buff with a much higher resource cost. Again, spellsteal is a good model of what the resource cost should be. (similar to what was done with spellsteal)
Mana as Elemental is already quite difficult, you can hardly cast lb to regain mana and TS should be usually used intelligent for defense, not just spammed on CD.
Also, Elemental does 0 Damage while purging, the nerf to grounding, wind shear and totems made Elemental very vulnerable vs. Caster.
This Glyph is fine for Elemental, nerfing it across the board because of Resto is like shooting a dead man.
Last edited by Kralljin; 2012-12-21 at 06:14 PM.
Good news, the glyph is nerfed on 5.2 PTR. 6 or 10 second cooldown if you use the glyph.
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I hope the glyph change doesn't go live. Glyph of Purge is not overpowered, it's one miniscule balancing aspect that pushes shamans towards something resembling viable for PvP. When I'm sitting behind the gates waiting for a BG to start in a random BG, I don't always get every class buff. If I die, more often than not I will have none, or perhaps one (depending on whether or not someone died within the same 30-second cycle as me). The reason I mention all of this is to point out that you don't need those buffs, and it's a survivability mechanism - a category that DPS Shamans are desperately lacking in - for us, that weakens your performance against us.
I wish they'd stop trying to balance PvP around Arenas and just make the whole affair incidental to what is real PvP, world or objective-based battleground PvP. Arena is PvP for simpletons, who cannot grasp more than one objective at any given time, and it's put on a glorified pedestal - as though it actually requires more skill and strategy! What a joke.
Purge dem glyphs
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Last edited by Darsithis; 2012-12-26 at 09:41 PM.