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    Calia Hastings: After the fall of Theramore Isle, what happen to her?

    Calia Hastings: After the fall of Theramore Isle, what happen to her?

    Did Blizzard let the conspiracy die?

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    all these views. come on. Can anybody that been playing the game give me some details on this NPC whereabouts during the current lore?
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    If she stayed on the Island to fight ,she is dead, if she was on the boat that escaped with most of the civillians she isn't.

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    I'm not aware of any confirmation of her fate at this point.

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    Thrown into unmarked grave hopefully.

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    I doubt she's the Calia anyway, so she probably died. I haven't seen any confirmation in-game about her wherabouts, though, so I can't be sure.
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    Wherever she is, Fiora Longears is probably with her.

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    Surprised this question hadn't come up yet. Well, look at it this way -- if the one theory is right and she is Calia, basically in SI:7 for her own safety as a monarch-in-exile doing pretty mild, undangerous work like her quests, there is no way she'd have been allowed to remain in Theramore after the impending siege was learned of. What would have been the point of all of it if she was there specifically to be out of harm's way, to let her stay and fight the Horde? In that theory, she'd have been yanked out of there, over her objections if necessary.

    If another Calia theory is right and she was in SI:7 for her own reasons, she might have chosen to stay and fight, and it would take a lot to make it believable that she isn't dead (unless she would have been out escorting one of the two scouting parties that survived, because she knows the area?).

    If she never was Calia Menethil, assume she's dead because it really doesn't matter from a lore standpoint.

    We never see the build-up to the siege represented in game, it all took place in the book. There is only pre-"Tides of War" Theramore, Theramore during the battle, and Theramore after the battle. She isn't represented one way or another during the battle (the Horde scenario), so they could totally justify saying she was reassigned or evacuated or simply out scouting with Vereesa or something.

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    I don't think Blizzard supports the Calia theory... If she IS Arthas' sister, she's still alive and waiting for a lore-revival at some point.
    If she's not, she's probably dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickM View Post
    I don't think Blizzard supports the Calia theory... If she IS Arthas' sister, she's still alive and waiting for a lore-revival at some point.
    If she's not, she's probably dead
    Wait, you said if she is not alive she is PROBABLY dead?

    Oh, I get it, is she is not Menethil she is dead... But the mislead writing was funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buu View Post
    Wait, you said if she is not alive she is PROBABLY dead?

    Oh, I get it, is she is not Menethil she is dead... But the mislead writing was funny.
    He said that if she's not Arthas' sister, she's probably dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade View Post
    He said that if she's not Arthas' sister, she's probably dead
    Haha exactly. If I had used spoken words, I would have put more emphasis on certain words

    But yeah.. let's hope Blizz will shed more light on this!

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    Like most people have said. IF she actually was Arthas sister, she is probaly dead. Would be wierd from a lore point, "OH yeah, and wanna hear something funny, you know your friend Calia, yeah she was Arthas sister, but now she is dead. just so you know it" But ofc if she is not, it does not matter who she was

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    One of the fanfiction finalists last (?) year was about Calia being an undead death knight of the Ebon Blade, plotting with Darion to remove Sylvanas from power and claim Lordaeron for herself.

    Maybe that resonated enough with Blizzard to have them go down that route.

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    I think it's a much more interesting thing to have an actual living, breathing Menethil out there than just another undead one to complete the set (Terenas is/was a ghost and or secretly Yogg , Arthas was a DK and then LK). You could go any number of directions with that character. I think the fanfic premise you mentioned says about everything you could do with a DK version of her, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaelsino View Post
    One of the fanfiction finalists last (?) year was about Calia being an undead death knight of the Ebon Blade, plotting with Darion to remove Sylvanas from power and claim Lordaeron for herself.

    Maybe that resonated enough with Blizzard to have them go down that route.
    To be honest, I hope not.

    One thing thats probably unlikely to occur is a radical change in the character of the factions. Thus, the Forsaken will always be evil. If you make Calia their "queen", you thus end up with a second Sylvanas. At which point - why get rid of Sylvanas? Not to mention Calia has no claim to rulership of the Forsaken.

    I think having Calia as alive, working with the Alliance to reclaim her lands and aid her people in opposition to Sylvanas works far better. While its far from impossible, I just haven't yet seen a storyline that actually ends up better with having Calia as a Sylvanas wannabe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talen View Post
    To be honest, I hope not.

    One thing thats probably unlikely to occur is a radical change in the character of the factions. Thus, the Forsaken will always be evil. If you make Calia their "queen", you thus end up with a second Sylvanas. At which point - why get rid of Sylvanas? Not to mention Calia has no claim to rulership of the Forsaken.
    Sylvanas always claimed that Lordaeron belonged to the people that called this place home, will it also it in death.

    This claims for her own power vanishes as soon as a person of the Menethil heritage appears on the table, Calia would be in fact the Queen of the Forsaken, since they are the same people as in live.

    Most of Sylvanas arguments about claiming Lordaeron for the Forsaken would backfire at this point, if Sylvanas wants to stay in power.

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    I think it's a false reading of the authorial intent about the races to say that "the Forsaken are (and always must be) evil", so conclusions based on that reading won't likely hold up all that well.

    The problem with having Calia as an Undead DK conspiring with Darion to take over the Forsaken is that it takes away the one thing that's still unique about Calia Menethil as an idea in the post WC3 world -- that she is a living, breathing human. The Menethils are otherwise dead, and Lordaeron otherwise belongs legitimately to only the undead. But give the Kingdom of Lordaeron an heir, and not merely dislocated subjects, and you have... politics. Intrigue.

    I actually am as interested in having Calia show up alive at some point as I'd be in having Alleria and Turalyon show up.

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    I am such a lore nerd...i saw this post and i had to add my tinfoil hat theory.

    What if she is alive...what if the forsaken see that she is the rightful heir and let's also assume that sylvanas is cool with it all. Could we have a human leading the forsaken? Some crazy twist like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxtab View Post
    I am such a lore nerd...i saw this post and i had to add my tinfoil hat theory.

    What if she is alive...what if the forsaken see that she is the rightful heir and let's also assume that sylvanas is cool with it all. Could we have a human leading the forsaken? Some crazy twist like that?
    no, because Forsaken are Horde, not Alliance or neutral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knighthonor View Post
    no, because Forsaken are Horde, not Alliance or neutral.


    This is going to sound strange but should also make sense. I disagree with that statement. Your race (although usually) doesn't determine your allegiance. There are many humans I.E. the defias brotherhood, scarlet crusade, etc. that play no part in the Alliance. The same is said for Orc clans that are not part of the Horde. If she is alive she is the rightful heir regardless. And if she is alive she may not want to pledge allegiance to the Alliance. To assumse that is racist...(as far as WoW goes).
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