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    Common sense is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleSilas View Post
    When everyone kept their opinions to themselves and didn't complain about minor personal issues.
    Absolutely. I suppose people always have to bitch about something though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Religion, some are still just slow on grasping it.
    You must think that religion is about a set of facts that cannot be proved. That is only reason you'd say that. That or some other reason besides the truth.

    The truth is, religion is a set of moral codes. They are in the business of marketing a moral code. Without religion, where will people get their moral code from? Their television? Their government? What is cool between their friends and neighbors? Let me assure you, in the long run, those sources are insufficient. None of those are solid ground to root your moral code in.

    Religion will never die until there is an adequate replacement for a source of a moral code.

    Now, if you want to suggest that people will stop believing the Earth is 6000 years old, I say "So what? That isn't the point of religion to begin with!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzbob View Post
    our parents didn't have to deal with reality tv that was all staged. they didn't have to deal with honey boo boo on the learning channel

    this is pretty unique. this is the age of fake reality and people seem to love it. i'm the only one in my family who doesn't watch that crap. everyone else loves it
    this isn't really about musical style/genre changes as much as how we're openly sold crap. we're happy to get crap at a high rate. it's better than quality at a lower rate.
    This is happening because we're losing our religion, which is our moral code. Today's generation is increasingly rudderless. They've been duped to think religion is about the Earth is 6000 years old, instead of the bedrock of your moral fiber. So they discard their religion without truly realizing what they are missing. Without a moral code, adults are becoming increasingly child-like, unable to care for themselves, unable to nurture their own minds, doing nothing with their leisure time beyond sitting in front of a TV watching Honey Boo Boo. So then they get their moral code from Hollywood, or the government, neither of which has their best interests at heart.

    Those sources will replace their moral code with being a consumer and a child. Hollywood teaches them its best to buy crap they don't need. Government teaches them that government knows best and they should listen to them or else go sit in timeout.

    Religion will make a comeback, once the people begin to truly feel their souls starved of anything meaningful in their lives. Could take a while, though.

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    The Music Industry Exposed (Full Length)
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    "satanism", first 3 minutes.

    Well that just about ends the thread so it does.

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    Everything that is not alive!

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    Small business's. Only major corps like walmart can afford to stay in business with their massive buying power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    You must think that religion is about a set of facts that cannot be proved. That is only reason you'd say that. That or some other reason besides the truth.

    The truth is, religion is a set of moral codes. They are in the business of marketing a moral code. Without religion, where will people get their moral code from? Their television? Their government? What is cool between their friends and neighbors? Let me assure you, in the long run, those sources are insufficient. None of those are solid ground to root your moral code in.

    Religion will never die until there is an adequate replacement for a source of a moral code.

    Now, if you want to suggest that people will stop believing the Earth is 6000 years old, I say "So what? That isn't the point of religion to begin with!"

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    This is happening because we're losing our religion, which is our moral code. Today's generation is increasingly rudderless. They've been duped to think religion is about the Earth is 6000 years old, instead of the bedrock of your moral fiber. So they discard their religion without truly realizing what they are missing. Without a moral code, adults are becoming increasingly child-like, unable to care for themselves, unable to nurture their own minds, doing nothing with their leisure time beyond sitting in front of a TV watching Honey Boo Boo. So then they get their moral code from Hollywood, or the government, neither of which has their best interests at heart.

    Those sources will replace their moral code with being a consumer and a child. Hollywood teaches them its best to buy crap they don't need. Government teaches them that government knows best and they should listen to them or else go sit in timeout.

    Religion will make a comeback, once the people begin to truly feel their souls starved of anything meaningful in their lives. Could take a while, though.
    I would rather go with a moral code that came to being from reasoning rather than random rules 2000+ years ago where someone cherrypick the "best" parts and claim it as a moral code.

    Religion established some rules, yes. But they were not first to do those codes nor have they been the best, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    You must think that religion is about a set of facts that cannot be proved. That is only reason you'd say that. That or some other reason besides the truth.

    The truth is, religion is a set of moral codes. They are in the business of marketing a moral code. Without religion, where will people get their moral code from? Their television? Their government? What is cool between their friends and neighbors? Let me assure you, in the long run, those sources are insufficient. None of those are solid ground to root your moral code in.

    Religion will never die until there is an adequate replacement for a source of a moral code.

    Now, if you want to suggest that people will stop believing the Earth is 6000 years old, I say "So what? That isn't the point of religion to begin with!"

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    This is happening because we're losing our religion, which is our moral code. Today's generation is increasingly rudderless. They've been duped to think religion is about the Earth is 6000 years old, instead of the bedrock of your moral fiber. So they discard their religion without truly realizing what they are missing. Without a moral code, adults are becoming increasingly child-like, unable to care for themselves, unable to nurture their own minds, doing nothing with their leisure time beyond sitting in front of a TV watching Honey Boo Boo. So then they get their moral code from Hollywood, or the government, neither of which has their best interests at heart.

    Those sources will replace their moral code with being a consumer and a child. Hollywood teaches them its best to buy crap they don't need. Government teaches them that government knows best and they should listen to them or else go sit in timeout.

    Religion will make a comeback, once the people begin to truly feel their souls starved of anything meaningful in their lives. Could take a while, though.
    Religion killed more people then Hitler, Stalin and the black plague combined, hows that for a moral code?
    Just to make things clear, I don't hate religion, it makes me just really angry that some religious people think atheïsts don't have morals. I'm an atheïst and I believe I should do good things because they are good, not because I will get rewarded with an eternal afterlife, infact I'm pretty happy with the fact that I'm totally gone when I'm dead, I don't need an eternal afterlife, believing in an afterlife is just for people who are scared of the dark (nothing wrong with that, pretty understandable even).
    Religion never ever brought good morals to a society, commen sense and rationality did that, religion just happend to copy those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meari View Post
    How exactly are music videos dead? Pretty much any artist from a record label that can afford it has atleast 1 music video for their album. Also how can music videos be replaced my reality shows? I'm sorry, that entire sentence confuses me.
    I think he is taking about the MTV channel, It used to be only music videos, now it is all just reality crap. Then they made VH1 which was all music, and that is turning into all reality crap too.
    These aren't the spoilers you're looking for.

    Move along.

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    Now, Waaldo is prepared to look for this person like Prince Charming testing everyone to see just how bad their psychological disorder is if their foot fits in the glass slipper.

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    I dare say... A stone.
    (My best guess!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    BBS... I remember logging onto university BBS networks when I was little to read porn internet literature... :nostalgia:
    I doubt that many actually know what BBS even is anymore.
    But yeah. I've ran one, and was so excited every morning after I got up to have all the new fido net mails in the BBS, and saw there were 3 people online in my BBS at the same time. It freaked me out in excitement. 3 lines at the same time, and all were used... Amazing. Tech revolution right there. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waaldo View Post
    I think he is taking about the MTV channel, It used to be only music videos, now it is all just reality crap. Then they made VH1 which was all music, and that is turning into all reality crap too.
    MTV Music channel with vids all day long still exists.
    Both have them on a separate tier tho, which costs just more sub fees, regardless of cable or sat.
    Same goes with VH1. And with that they are even smarter, VH1 classic is buried another tier deeper, since it's usually targeting the older generations, the ones with more money to spend on fond memories.

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    I've often thought how easy the flow of information and disinformation is these days. When I was a young, if you wanted to know something you either asked someone or looked it up in an encyclopedia if you had a set.

    Same with music. If you could afford to buy albums on a regular basis, wasn't really an issue. But most people aren't audiophiles. So if you didn't own the album or single, what a feeling you felt when that song finally aired again on the radio. Awesome. And some people would have a blank tape ready to record for that moment.

    Movies and TV shows were the same. Now it's just so easy to find what you want. I mean, yeah I'm glad for the ease. But I wonder sometimes if that makes it all less precious? I don't know.

    Oh and yes, I realize you older folks (40+) were amazed at cassettes, VCRs, etc.. lol.

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    Widely respected news anchors that speak to their audience like intelligent human beings.

    What I would give to be able to tune in to a Murrow or Cronkite of the current era... no one comes close. The infotainment machine is too powerful, spewing polarizing crap that reinforces your own views instead of making you think about what's actually happening.

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    Music videos are not dead, especially when the music and concept speaks so loudly:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    The truth is, religion is a set of moral codes. They are in the business of marketing a moral code. Without religion, where will people get their moral code from? Their television? Their government? What is cool between their friends and neighbors? Let me assure you, in the long run, those sources are insufficient. None of those are solid ground to root your moral code in.
    From common sense. Religion is not necessary for morality. Moral codes are developed through society and common sense. I don't not kill people because god tells me not to; I don't kill me because society and my common sense tells me its wrong.

    Humans have a sense of morality developed through evolution. We instinctively have a base moral code that kept us from tearing each other apart and ensured we cared for our tribe in our hunter-gatherer days. Why do you think every civilization developed some moral code and wrapped their religion around it?

    Our society has developed to the point where most people can decide between right and wrong without having to resort to religion or government.

    I am an atheist, I do not resort to government or Hollywood for my moral code. I simply use my common sense and reason.
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    So...their not dead, they just don't fit your tastes anymore.

    'Begin Again' by Taylor Swift for example has some of the best cinematorgraphy in a music video I've seen in years.
    I remember it all too well

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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    The town high street.

    Most towns I go to in Britain, the main street is very run down due to lost business because of all the big supermarkets.

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