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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Are these their job on EQN or are these spread across titles?
    If its all on EQN the game might as well be cancelled 0.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Are these their job on EQN or are these spread across titles?
    everyone on that list are EQN devs/staff/related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellravager View Post
    If its all on EQN the game might as well be cancelled 0.o
    I was expecting across multiple titles and had the same thought, but figured I wouldn't make assumptions.

  4. #3164
    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Are these their job on EQN or are these spread across titles?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellravager View Post
    If its all on EQN the game might as well be cancelled 0.o
    I followed a lot of EQN people on twitter, and so far they all appear to be EQN related...

  5. #3165
    Quote Originally Posted by Bardarian View Post
    You are going to have to support that with something resembling an argument.
    That you have a guy who was pretty much, "Mr. Everquest" laid off shortly after the company splits from SOE.

    That you have larger layoffs within the company despite their statements that the increased funding from the investment company would mean they had more money to spend on growing their games and teams.

    Seriously, when are layoffs, especially when they include major leadership positions, a good thing?

    Well...outside of Mark Kern and Red 5. So one time that I can think of : P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That you have a guy who was pretty much, "Mr. Everquest" laid off shortly after the company splits from SOE.

    That you have larger layoffs within the company despite their statements that the increased funding from the investment company would mean they had more money to spend on growing their games and teams.

    Seriously, when are layoffs, especially when they include major leadership positions, a good thing?

    Well...outside of Mark Kern and Red 5. So one time that I can think of : P
    See?

    That's how you make an argument :P
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    So head count as of now for all those canned

    Everquest

    Dave Georgeson - Director of Development
    Linda Carlson - Community Manager
    Akil Hooper - Game developer
    Aaron Bisnett - Character/item artist
    Douglas VanDerveer - Game Designer
    Annah Bianchi - Community Manager
    Aimee Rekoske - Community Relations Project Manager
    Tiffany Spence - Social media department
    Steve Danuser - Lead Content Designer and Head of Story
    Eric Smith - Associate Producer
    Noah Watkins - Graphic designer/ Web Artist / UI Artist (worked on graphic stuff for all SOE stuff)


    H1Z1

    Noah Watkin - Web Artist / UI Artist/Graphic designer
    Kelduum Revaan - Programmer


    Planetside 2:

    Katharine Anderson - Build master
    Xander Clauss - Base designer
    Taylor Dowel -Systems designer
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    Being a long time EQ1 player, EQ2 player, and fan of the EQ franchise in general, this kinda stung a little bit in both a good way and a bad way. Currently, I think a lot of people(myself included) will agree that what we saw so far from EQNext, it didn't look well, both graphically and game play wise. HOPEFULLY these changes will be for the better IF the game continues development. I know personally, I am NOT a fan of the hectic "action" combat they showed off and no structure in groups. The group gameplay was going to be GW2'ish which was a clusterfuck at best, and it showed in group dungeons. Lack of healing, lack of tanks, lack of STRUCTURE.

    Hopefully structure will be brought back into view. Its sad to see people go in general. It will effect their families, etc. Hope for the best for them.

  9. #3169
    Quote Originally Posted by Bardarian View Post
    See?

    That's how you make an argument :P
    Didn't come in here to make an argument. Just to share the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Didn't come in here to make an argument. Just to share the news.
    You didn't really share any news. You just said this game was over. That's not news, that's just an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Didn't come in here to make an argument. Just to share the news.
    You didn't really share any news. You just said this game was over. That's not news, that's just an observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    You didn't really share any news. You just said this game was over. That's not news, that's just an observation.

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    You didn't really share any news. You just said this game was over. That's not news, that's just an observation.
    I linked an article with the news of the layoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I linked an article with the news of the layoffs.
    Which is different from saying that the game is over.

    You misrepresented the news by giving your opinion as news which you didn't support with an argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardarian View Post
    Which is different from saying that the game is over.

    You misrepresented the news by giving your opinion as news which you didn't support with an argument.
    Who cares? This isn't a scientific discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throren View Post
    So head count as of now for all those canned

    Everquest

    Dave Georgeson - Director of Development
    Linda Carlson - Community Manager
    Akil Hooper - Game developer
    Aaron Bisnett - Character/item artist
    Douglas VanDerveer - Game Designer
    Annah Bianchi - Community Manager
    Aimee Rekoske - Community Relations Project Manager
    Tiffany Spence - Social media department
    Steve Danuser - Lead Content Designer and Head of Story
    Eric Smith - Associate Producer
    Noah Watkins - Graphic designer/ Web Artist / UI Artist (worked on graphic stuff for all SOE stuff)
    Does anyone know if EQ1/EQ2/EQN share teams or if they are separate?

    Because this could either be really bad for EQN the game or EQ the whole IP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Does anyone know if EQ1/EQ2/EQN share teams or if they are separate?

    Because this could either be really bad for EQN the game or EQ the whole IP.
    I believe they're separate for the most part, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some overlap here and there. I know each game has their own specific producer (Holly Longdale for EQ2, Thom Terrazas for EQ1, and I forget who for Landmark).

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    The issue is Georgeson and the others fired were the face of EQN and responsible for the current direction with the voxel engine, sandbox approach etc. that a lot of us find so appealing. With all of them gone ... who are they going to replace them with that won't just ship this off into some gutted console crap/mobile farmville F2P?

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    Here's an interesting thought -

    Now that George is gone, will we find out more info about EQN or will he still be unable to talk about it? Would be interesting if he shed some light on the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extremeties View Post
    Would be interesting if he shed some light on the project.
    NDA's yo. He can probably share very vague information, but I wouldn't expect anything very substantial : /

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    Maybe new people will do well for EQ franchise. New people can be good.


    Who cares? This isn't a scientific discussion.
    You don't need it to be a scientific discussions. ANY discussion, got a claim? Back it up and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post

    Does anyone know if EQ1/EQ2/EQN share teams or if they are separate?

    Because this could either be really bad for EQN the game or EQ the whole IP.
    a couple people on the list like Akil Hooper and Aaron were also stillk doing stuff for EQ2 last I checked

    Also it's been hinted that possibly all contracted employees have been laid off as well

  20. #3180
    Quote Originally Posted by Throren View Post
    a couple people on the list like Akil Hooper and Aaron were also stillk doing stuff for EQ2 last I checked

    Also it's been hinted that possibly all contracted employees have been laid off as well
    For many of them, I can see them being contract workers. But Dave and Linda and a few of the others? No way they weren't full timers.

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