Thread: Cyberpunk 2077

  1. #2721
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Of course there is a difference in purpose but if guides can been written with out an artistic flair then so can a critique. The problem is most of the reviews are to heavily weighted to artistic and not actually reviewing the game. They are reviewing their opinion and impression rather then the actual game. Which is a problem and not something that should be accepted as "outside the purview of a review".

    A person shouldn't have to wait for a guide to learn how the crafting, gun play, and other aspects of the game perform because those are all core features of a the game that most reviews seemed to have ignored in favor of poetic word counts.
    Maybe with generic shooters you can focus on core mechanics more as that's all there is to the game but with and RPG it's much more about the experience of world and story so unless the core game is incredibly good or incredibly bad it isn't much of a big deal.

  2. #2722
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Except that neither Polygon nor Kotaku gave the game a scored review, so you're just here complaining about literally nothing.

    https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/c...critic-reviews

    Both reviews included, neither scored and consequently doesn't impact its Metascore.

    That some reviews are done through social lenses, alongside all the other reviews that are focused more on the game, is a good thing, not a bad thing. That's the evolution of critique and criticism that happens as an art form matures, and gaming is continuing to mature as an art form.
    In general? Sure. In context of trash like Kotaku and Polygon in particular, i.e. the sites that railed against CDPR's previous game for it not having enough diversity, despite Witcher being an established fantasy work based on Slavic folkore, various European fairy tales and Arthurian legends (and set in the northern part of the fictional continent no less)? Not really. Those sites are an unintended parody of the very concept of looking at games through a social lens.
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  3. #2723
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    In general? Sure. In context of trash like Kotaku and Polygon in particular, i.e. the sites that railed against CDPR's previous game for it not having enough diversity, despite Witcher being an established fantasy work based on Slavic folkore, various European fairy tales and Arthurian legends (and set in the northern part of the fictional continent no less)? Not really. Those sites are an unintended parody of the very concept of looking at games through a social lens.
    One of the reviews spent half the review comaining that the game let you be transgender but not enough to thier liming and how as a transgender person they wernt happy. Then halfway down they talked about actuall gameplay.

  4. #2724
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Maybe with generic shooters you can focus on core mechanics more as that's all there is to the game but with and RPG it's much more about the experience of world and story so unless the core game is incredibly good or incredibly bad it isn't much of a big deal.
    But if they are talking about the reviewers personal opinions and views they are still not reviewing the world and story of the game. The difference between reviewing the game and reviewing the feelings of the reviewer. A lot of reviewers tend to lose focus that they are writing about the game rather then other stuff. There is a lot of stuff about the actual game that could have been covered but was glossed over by some reviewers for the more controversial subjects and topics. I get it. A reviewer is being paid to drive engagement to their publication. So they are not paid to review the games so much as they are paid to to it in a way to drive clicks even if it doesn't ultimately have much to do with the game play.
    Last edited by rhorle; 2020-12-10 at 09:15 PM.
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  5. #2725
    Man, for a site everyone claims to hate and not care about, peoples sure seem to be real upset about a review they don't like and can easily ignore and not read. Still blows me away, who gives a shit what they think if you don't agree with the site overall? Their reviews aren't even scored, so they're not dragging down the metascore.

    Though I gotta say, dicks clipping through pants may be one of the best day 1 bugs I've ever seen in a game.

  6. #2726
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Though I gotta say, dicks clipping through pants may be one of the best day 1 bugs I've ever seen in a game.
    And yet when that happens IRL, they arrest you!

  7. #2727
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man, for a site everyone claims to hate and not care about, peoples sure seem to be real upset about a review they don't like and can easily ignore and not read. Still blows me away, who gives a shit what they think if you don't agree with the site overall? Their reviews aren't even scored, so they're not dragging down the metascore.
    It isn't a problem limited to just one site though and is something that is an issue with a lot of reviewers and sites. It is more of an industry one. But it is funny that for someone that keeps saying others should stop hyper focusing on one review that is all you seem to bring up. Including to bash crafting with no actual knowledge of the game. Weird how that works both ways? And it highlights the problem when reviewers don't do their due diligence. People take what they say and run with it even if it is wrong because it is easier to get cheap jabs in that do a proper job. Much like with reviewers.

    It is less about reviewing the actual games and more about saying the right words for whatever agenda. And it has nothing to do with just the negative reviews. But plenty of positive reviews don't do enough to review the actual games. It is why reviews are not worth much anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    And yet when that happens IRL, they arrest you!
    I mean, most of people cant clip it through the pants IRL. :v
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  9. #2729
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man, for a site everyone claims to hate and not care about, peoples sure seem to be real upset about a review they don't like and can easily ignore and not read. Still blows me away, who gives a shit what they think if you don't agree with the site overall? Their reviews aren't even scored, so they're not dragging down the metascore.

    Though I gotta say, dicks clipping through pants may be one of the best day 1 bugs I've ever seen in a game.
    Was it by any chance directed at my reply?
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    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

  10. #2730
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    It isn't a problem limited to just one site though and is something that is an issue with a lot of reviewers and sites.
    Two sites out of hundreds addressed these topics and ya'll act like it's everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    But it is funny that for someone that keeps saying others should stop hyper focusing on one review that is all you seem to bring up.
    No, others bring it up and I respond. This response was to Zeta for bringing that up.

  11. #2731
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, most of people cant clip it through the pants IRL. :v
    That's because you have to cut off your penis and then resurrect it as a ghost. Duh, how else would it become incorporeal IRL.
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  12. #2732
    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler View Post
    Better stop consuming entertainment for a while, then.

    You're in a sexual revolution much like the one the hippies had in the 60's.
    That's why I'm opting out of Cyberpunk. I don't want sexual imagery shoved in my face every other second. Plenty of fictional media out there without blatant sexualization.

  13. #2733
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    That's why I'm opting out of Cyberpunk. I don't want sexual imagery shoved in my face every other second. Plenty of fictional media out there without blatant sexualization.
    Do you look down and pretend that you dont have genitals'?

  14. #2734
    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Or the removal of boobs completely from female models. I was willing to get super creative, unfortunately not
    I know a breast cancer survivor that had to go through a mastectomy. She tried to refrain from going into details but she could barely suppress her tears.

    I am tired of the media push or culture push that having breasts is offensive to people. It's discrimination. Not only that you have women that have to recover so much emotional trauma from what they went through. Some that feel like less of a woman because this happened to them. (This is from some survivors)

    Or it can be for other reasons with women. In an age where people keep preaching acceptance. Some people are getting demoralized over something they have no control over. Then it's like some people are insensitive about it and have no idea what it was like growing up. How much torment it can really be. Harassment from men and women. No gender bias here.

    Instead I have Blizzard entertainment enforcing it's wrong. Some women are unacceptable. Then preaching in the same breathe about accepting ALL body types and diversity. (I have always been a strong advocate of body sliders) So maybe Blizzard you should be listening to my complaints about trying to fix that. Instead of making it out to be something that it isn't.. make them as small as you want, or as big. This shouldn't be an offensive or a huge deal..

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Nope. As soon as a piece of media or artwork has undue focus on sexuality, I quit.
    No offense I think that sounds like a YOU problem. In no way should that part of a woman's body should be objectified or make them feel discriminated against. It's like if my finger was considered sexual. Are you entitled to cut it off? No that doesn't make sense and shouldn't be allowed.

  15. #2735
    Came here looking for first hand experiences, instead im reading 10 pages bitching about transgender nonsense and reviewers. God i pity you all.

  16. #2736
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Two sites out of hundreds addressed these topics and ya'll act like it's everyone.
    If others bring it up and your respond why do you keep tailoring your replies to two sites even when I mentioned it as a problem with more and not just with negative reviews? The problem is you are focusing just as much on certain reviews but only bashing some people. Don't you find that as weird? And then you back pedal and say it was in response to a specific person when you keep using general terms rather then specifically directing it. Even more so when you say ya'll which clearly refers to more then one person.

    Make up your mind and at least have the spine to stick to your comments when you make them. And you have been around the internet and video games long enough to know that pandering and real actual reviews of games doesn't always happen. There are just as many bad reviews that do it as there are good reviews that do it. If you think it is just two sites then you are naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icelin View Post
    Instead I have Blizzard entertainment enforcing it's wrong. Some women are unacceptable. Then preaching in the same breathe about accepting ALL body types and diversity. (I have always been a strong advocate of body sliders) So maybe Blizzard you should be listening to my complaints about trying to fix that. Instead of making it out to be something that it isn't.. make them as small as you want, or as big. This shouldn't be an offensive or a huge deal..
    What does Blizzard have to do with this?
    Last edited by rhorle; 2020-12-10 at 09:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man, for a site everyone claims to hate and not care about, peoples sure seem to be real upset about a review they don't like and can easily ignore and not read. Still blows me away, who gives a shit what they think if you don't agree with the site overall? Their reviews aren't even scored, so they're not dragging down the metascore.

    Though I gotta say, dicks clipping through pants may be one of the best day 1 bugs I've ever seen in a game.
    Well, i had my tits clip, but when it clips its the default small ones. Stuff cant even clip properly

  18. #2738
    Ok so after 5 hours with game....

    The story so far is ok, dialogs and characters is what i would expect from CDPR. Game runs smooth on ultra ultra with RTX on and DLSS on Quality(i play on GF Now due to not beeing able to get pc parts due to shortage -.-). THe visuals are good, nothing outstanding, but nothing awful, just good.

    Combat....I love cut enemies with katana and I build my spec towards katana combat atm and I very enjoy it.

    There are a lot of activities in the city...one can get some cool loot from it, but so far the side quests are not as deep as in W3 sadly, they are okayish.

    As for bugs, in my 5 hours of game time on Virtualized PC , I crossed 5 bugs, one forced me to load save because i glitched and got inside box and couldn't get out. The other funny one was when I put new pants on, the inventory character glitched and showed my V without pants with ding dong dangling or another when I had upgrades installed my character appeared completly naked. Other were some graphical glitches, very minor thing.

    Sadly NPCs in the world....lets say they are Witcher 3 level NPCs, they didn't improve AI, I havent seen many routines implemented to NPCs, doesn't feel like they are some live ppl doing their stuff....just animated models on rails that walk here and there. Very disappointed on that part, RDR2 is still a king in that area.

    I hate driving car in this game, its some Watch Dog level shit car driving, i rather run everywhere .

    So far its nowere near 10/10 nor 9/10 material. Its a solid game atm, lets see how it plays out after more hours.
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  19. #2739
    i have no idea what is going on now. i was coming here to see if people have played the game and thought it was good so far.
    the report systems sucks and the mods are bias.

  20. #2740
    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    i have no idea what is going on now. i was coming here to see if people have played the game and thought it was good so far.
    Yea, it's enjoyable to me. I am not losing my mind in disbelief of the accomplishment. Though I am having fun nonetheless like dozens of other games this year. My two biggest gripes are inconsistent UI and key remapping not working fully.

    No bugs, no technical issues at all. Playing on PC. Medium settings, with a few annoying features like lens flare and motion blur turned off. Though I would have turned those off for any game honestly.

    My husband is playing the PS4 disc on the PS5 and the only thing we noticed was some clipping through clothing (no dicks yet) and dead bodies falling in ridiculous poses. Typical stuff you'd see anywhere really.

    Edit: About 14-5ish hours in so far.
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