Thread: Cyberpunk 2077

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    Its a bit iffy. It now looks like they have even delisted the ps5 version.
    There is no PS5 version. The PS5 plays the PS4 version with boost mode enhancements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzit View Post
    Being the 1 outa 10 people who say "It worked fine for me" helps no one. Congrats.

    Also, what did you gain from pre-ordering? Besides giving money to a company who would knowingly release a broken game?
    You put the question out there. I genuinely couldn't care less how broken it is for people on console because I didn't play it there. I played on PC, and I greatly enjoyed my time with the game. In fact, I fully intend to re-play the game several times. As to what I gained from pre-ordering? That's between myself and the company I paid. I got my money's worth, and as far as I'm concerned, the game wasn't broken. I don't give a damn about anyone else's experience, just mine.

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    If they're serious about fixing the game then the official statements made would acknowledge, without corporate double speak, that it wasn't what was promised. If they want to win me back they need to implement a proper lifepath system that isn't bare bones and they need to add more stuff/choices that doesn't revolve around Johnny. A big ask? Sure - but they already blatantly cut content so they could gush over Keanu Reeves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaktar View Post
    What do you mean about dropping RPG from their description? Tried looking it up and I'm not seeing the story. Its genre is listed as RPG on Steam, though given everything it wouldn't be surprising if they tried to lie about the genre. It's an RPG primarily - that's not a bandage, it's clearly the core game system. It might be fair to say the game suffered a bit from feature creep, but I dunno. I'd rather the driving systems we have than just teleporting from location to location or whatever they would have gone with instead.

    That ad you linked is extremely misleading. He's capturing the spirit of the city in what he says, but giving the impression he's describing the game. It's dodgy as hell. The business lied its ass off about the game (not just in marketing, the console launch looks like a disaster from over here in PCland) and deserve the hate they're getting for doing that. Despite all of that I'll be sad if we never see any kind of DLC or expansions, because there's a lot of good material to work with, it's a shame they weren't honest.
    In June last year, they stopped referring to the game as an RPG and started calling it an action-adventure game, in reality, that was probably because they have a wider audience, I doubt it had any impact on the game's development, I meant it more as another jab at the shifty marketing more than anything else.
    I actually think after the firestorm they have no option but to fix it. Also no matter how much of a fuss people are kicking up over refunds this game will turn a profit, almost every big game does. Normies are like flies on poop when it comes to latest *product* no matter how bad it is.
    Circling back to the the ultimate crux of my point, however, is people pretending the game doesn't have very real issues now because 'everyone's hating on it' is just as unhelpful as hating a popular game just because it's popular.
    It is a shame their grasp exceeded their reach though because cyberpunk is a fertile and under-exploited genre (I'm pretty sure it's just this, deus ex and shadowrun?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Advent View Post
    You put the question out there. I genuinely couldn't care less how broken it is for people on console because I didn't play it there. I played on PC, and I greatly enjoyed my time with the game. In fact, I fully intend to re-play the game several times. As to what I gained from pre-ordering? That's between myself and the company I paid. I got my money's worth, and as far as I'm concerned, the game wasn't broken. I don't give a damn about anyone else's experience, just mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    If they're serious about fixing the game then the official statements made would acknowledge, without corporate double speak, that it wasn't what was promised. If they want to win me back they need to implement a proper lifepath system that isn't bare bones and they need to add more stuff/choices that doesn't revolve around Johnny. A big ask? Sure - but they already blatantly cut content so they could gush over Keanu Reeves.
    They cut content because it was too much to do. I don't think expecting any big overhauls is a realistic thing to expect unless they add an expansion or two.
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    Game is amazing, only ran into two bugs

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    Like... when it works, it's a very well made game. It's just that, while I've encountered relatively few glitches, the game crashes about once per two hours if I round up by a bit, on ps5. It's annoying, but not enough to really shelf it. Probably start a fresh run with a different lifepath once the fully realized next gen version comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post


    Just for being such an extra special boy
    Just to circle back to my point, the person is sharing their opinion, it isn't any less valuable than the people whining about their bad experiences. Penny Arcade jumped the shark a long time ago with their pissy little fits over nonsense. If someone wants to share that they enjoyed the game, it's useful to other people who could enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advent View Post
    You put the question out there. I genuinely couldn't care less how broken it is for people on console because I didn't play it there. I played on PC, and I greatly enjoyed my time with the game. In fact, I fully intend to re-play the game several times. As to what I gained from pre-ordering? That's between myself and the company I paid. I got my money's worth, and as far as I'm concerned, the game wasn't broken. I don't give a damn about anyone else's experience, just mine.
    Love it. This is the biggest problem with people today. "Fuck y'all, got mine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advent View Post
    You put the question out there. I genuinely couldn't care less how broken it is for people on console because I didn't play it there. I played on PC, and I greatly enjoyed my time with the game. In fact, I fully intend to re-play the game several times. As to what I gained from pre-ordering? That's between myself and the company I paid. I got my money's worth, and as far as I'm concerned, the game wasn't broken. I don't give a damn about anyone else's experience, just mine.
    What replayability does it have? The game worked flawlessly for me however... I fail to see the ability to replay this. It is a linear story where you choices barely matter with little to virtually no RPG aspects related to your life path...

    Replay for combat flavour? That gets boring I would totally replay for story but this game doesn't allow that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaktar View Post
    If someone wants to share that they enjoyed the game, it's useful to other people who could enjoy it.
    It isn't about people sharing that they enjoyed the game. It's great if they enjoyed the game.

    It's about the people saying "Fuck you, you deserved to get a shitty product" to the people that bought the game for PS4/XBone.

  12. #3792
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Yikes.

    I hope this isn't a one time thing, and that this sends a message to AAA studios.

    You. Can. Not. Sell. Customers. Broken. Games. To. Meet. A. Deadline!

    The system is horrible. Customers and developers suffering due to the greed of executives, the out of touch market researchers and accountants, and irresponsible managers.
    It won't. I bet EA and Activision are laughing their asses off right now. This is what bothers me the most about this whole situation. If CDPR crashes and burns we'd get one less Dev that gives out tons of DLC for free, makes expansions into actual expansions that are as good as the base game. If that happens then there's no incentive for others to do. EA and Activision will remain scummy for life. Selling DLC and season passed before the game is even out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    It won't. I bet EA and Activision are laughing their asses off right now. This is what bothers me the most about this whole situation. If CDPR crashes and burns we'd get one less Dev that gives out tons of DLC for free, makes expansions into actual expansions that are as good as the base game. If that happens then there's no incentive for others to do. EA and Activision will remain scummy for life. Selling DLC and season passed before the game is even out.
    Well neither of them have shipped a game with as much performance issues or glitches as this in a long ass time so who is really the scummy one? It's easy for CDPR to sit on their high horse with free DLC or DLC pricing while they are crunching to released a clearly undercooked game and paying their devs shitty polish salaries. CDPR is not your friend, and the joke is on the people who bought that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    It won't. I bet EA and Activision are laughing their asses off right now. This is what bothers me the most about this whole situation. If CDPR crashes and burns we'd get one less Dev that gives out tons of DLC for free, makes expansions into actual expansions that are as good as the base game. If that happens then there's no incentive for others to do. EA and Activision will remain scummy for life. Selling DLC and season passed before the game is even out.
    They are laughing and they have the right to laugh at CDPR, wasnt CDPR saying 'we leave greed to others'? And many more tweets and messages that they are not scummy as the rest of the industry? Well here we are in December 2020 . What they pulled off on fucking last gen consoles is not possible to defend for any decent human being. Also the marketing outdone the developers, the game is nowere near what they promised, and the actual game is a far cry from the gameplay and what they told in the gameplay form 2018. Also what they pulled on GOG with that Devotion game is also another nail in the coffin. They burned every bit of trust and love they had from many many gamers. It appears that CDPR does not differ from any big fish in this industry, bubble has bursted and we should treat CDP as any other company. I dont blame them they want to make money its every company main thing to do, but don't be pretentious and ride the high horse 'we are not like that' when u are, be honest at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Well neither of them have shipped a game with as much performance issues or glitches as this in a long ass time so who is really the scummy one? It's easy for CDPR to sit on their high horse with free DLC or DLC pricing while they are crunching to released a clearly undercooked game and paying their devs shitty polish salaries. CDPR is not your friend, and the joke is on the people who bought that bullshit.
    Dunno about exact numbers on CDPR devs salaries, but one has to consider the cost of living in Poland is still lower than in the west (aside from current gov fucking ppl over with more taxation). But I heard in general game dev companies pay lower than average in the market for instance programmers etc., thats why I will never leave my business software development career despite i'd love to work on games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzit View Post
    Love it. This is the biggest problem with people today. "Fuck y'all, got mine."
    Nah dude, thats irrelevant, why would I care about some old consoles performance if I intend to play it on PC?
    I dont give a flying fuck about other people opinions because I will be the one playing it and judging.

    I know its cool and shit to jump on hate bandwagon but if it work for ME and will be good experience for ME then it will be a good game.

    On the other hand Witcher 3 had so many release bugs with one of them bricking my saves then i should hate the W3 too. And quite honestly if not for people screaming how good witcher was I wouldn't probably finish it after my saves went to trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    It isn't about people sharing that they enjoyed the game. It's great if they enjoyed the game.

    It's about the people saying "Fuck you, you deserved to get a shitty product" to the people that bought the game for PS4/XBone.
    Didn't see that in the post the dude was quoting. He said he didn't care how the game performed for other people. Don't think people who are having issues care that others are having a great experience either, and why should they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehezbegar View Post
    Dunno about exact numbers on CDPR devs salaries, but one has to consider the cost of living in Poland is still lower than in the west (aside from current gov fucking ppl over with more taxation). But I heard in general game dev companies pay lower than average in the market for instance programmers etc., thats why I will never leave my business software development career despite i'd love to work on games
    This is true, but the problem is CDPR is making AAA profits off games but not paying their devs AAA salaries. Lets compare them to say DICE since EA was mentioned, it's easy to act like CDPR is on some high horse with free DLC but DICE is in Sweden and paying their devs 4x what CDPR is paying theirs. They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart they are doing it because they are already at a far higher profit margin and can front it to look like the "good guys" unfortunately for them the mask is off though and the gaming community by and large realizes this now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Nah dude, thats irrelevant, why would I care about some old consoles performance if I intend to play it on PC?
    I dont give a flying fuck about other people opinions because I will be the one playing it and judging.

    I know its cool and shit to jump on hate bandwagon but if it work for ME and will be good experience for ME then it will be a good game.

    On the other hand Witcher 3 had so many release bugs with one of them bricking my saves then i should hate the W3 too. And quite honestly if not for people screaming how good witcher was I wouldn't probably finish it after my saves went to trash.
    The difference is back then CDP was not as big as now, the budget of W3 was way way lower than the one of Cyberpunk, it was the first game of their to release on PS console and to be honest expectations were different, the hype was vastly lower (1.5mln preorders of W3 vs 8mln preorders of Cyberpunk), so we were able to see past through it. Right now CDP has more money, more ppl and is in general a bigger company, expectations were different. Also they all the time say 'quality first'...I personally was not as hyped, because i am realistic in life, but tbh I expected improvement over W3 and a quite leap from it, sadly didn't happen. Even If u dont encounter game breaking bugs, outside of story that game doesnt offer anything from Open World design. So if they developed it as Witcher 2, on rails RPG with 2-3 branches in story and some side jobs, game would be awesome and I think they could deliver quality product, but instead they deep dive opne world....without any proper design. So we have story, nice looking and designed city as a background for that story...done. ANd the game was advertised as open world, so ppl expected at least GTA V, not to tell RDR2. They still lack skill to jump to Rockstar open world mastery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehezbegar View Post
    The difference is back then CDP was not as big as now, the budget of W3 was way way lower than the one of Cyberpunk, it was the first game of their to release on PS console and to be honest expectations were different, the hype was vastly lower (1.5mln preorders of W3 vs 8mln preorders of Cyberpunk), so we were able to see past through it. Right now CDP has more money, more ppl and is in general a bigger company, expectations were different. Also they all the time say 'quality first'...I personally was not as hyped, because i am realistic in life, but tbh I expected improvement over W3 and a quite leap from it, sadly didn't happen. Even If u dont encounter game breaking bugs, outside of story that game doesnt offer anything from Open World design. So if they developed it as Witcher 2, on rails RPG with 2-3 branches in story and some side jobs, game would be awesome and I think they could deliver quality product, but instead they deep dive opne world....without any proper design. So we have story, nice looking and designed city as a background for that story...done. ANd the game was advertised as open world, so ppl expected at least GTA V, not to tell RDR2. They still lack skill to jump to Rockstar open world mastery.
    I don't care about any stuff like that. I don't remember a single software in general that did not have bugs at release so I usually wait month or more before buying stuff. That also includes hardware like consoles and pc parts (never buy freshly released shit).

    RDR2 was boring AF, GTA V was mediocre so at some point I just sprinted thru main quests.

    Couldn't care less about company itself, I am only interested in product and if product meets MY needs (to be entertaining). Thats all.
    I don't read any marketing bullshit, I don't create some unrealistic expectations in my head, I don't believe in santa.

    Will I enjoy it? Then it would be great games. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaktar View Post
    Didn't see that in the post the dude was quoting. He said he didn't care how the game performed for other people. Don't think people who are having issues care that others are having a great experience either, and why should they?
    I was speaking more about what was being said in the Penny Arcade comic...which is essentially about the people that are saying "you deserve what you get for buying it on a last gen console"

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