Cyberpunk 2077

[Graeham]

Night City itself is gorgeous. Even when and where it's sleazy, it looks really good. I just wish we could have interacted with it more.

Too much of the city and cast of characters were sidelined in favour of Johnny for my liking. His appearance was really the point where I started disliking the main story - especially since I wanted to work with and for Arasaka.

Still, it is what it is. I got my refund for the PS4 version and now I've got a PS5. If they fix the problems I have with the game, I might buy it again when it comes down in price.

[Zaktar]

I would be extremely surprised if they leave Nightcity behind before the sequel (if there is one in the end). To me it feels that Nightcity is the actual protagonist of the game and they plan to provide us different ways and POVs to explore it. There is absolutely no way they are creating or even trying to create anything similar, even if a tenth in score, just for a dlc, regardless of how incompetent and deluded one wants to believe that their management is. Beyond that, I agree with the rest of your statement regarding the gangs and hopefully it's one of the things that will be fleshed out in the near future, but we'll see what happens.

It does seem like the logical move, but I've thought that in the past and most developers seem to prefer adding new locations over deepening existing ones. Might be harder to market without a "Visit Neon City [etc]!" That said I tried and failed to get into the Witcher series so I don't know these devs too well.

[Rustedsaint]

I would be extremely surprised if they leave Nightcity behind before the sequel (if there is one in the end). To me it feels that Nightcity is the actual protagonist of the game and they plan to provide us different ways and POVs to explore it. There is absolutely no way they are creating or even trying to create anything similar, even if a tenth in score, just for a dlc, regardless of how incompetent and deluded one wants to believe that their management is. Beyond that, I agree with the rest of your statement regarding the gangs and hopefully it's one of the things that will be fleshed out in the near future, but we'll see what happens.

Don’t have to create many new models for a dlc to leave a area. Far harbour from fallout 4 comes to mind,aswell as the story book the Witcher got himself stuck in.

Personally I suspect they gonna have a dlc where the player goes to that orbiting hotel/casino that been mentioned in the game afew times. Simple environment, models that can be reused from the base game.

[Gorsameth]

Don’t have to create many new models for a dlc to leave a area. Far harbour from fallout 4 comes to mind,aswell as the story book the Witcher got himself stuck in.

Personally I suspect they gonna have a dlc where the player goes to that orbiting hotel/casino that been mentioned in the game afew times. Simple environment, models that can be reused from the base game.

One of the endings fades to black as you head towards a space station for the 'biggest job ever' so I doubt they will do that as DLC unless they turn that into the cannon ending.

[Koriani]

Well as some of us speculated (or outright figured) -

Modders are indeed fixing what Cyberpunk Dev's haven't fixed yet.

There was a mod-fix for the "vulnerability from Mods" problem posted 3 days before CDPR even announced it was a vulnerability.

There is already a mod-fix for the all the busted 20-point Perks (not ALL the busted perks yet, but for the end-of-tree perks that bust after the save game, there is a mod that fixes that).

There is also already a mod-partial fix (still being worked on obviously) for clothing mods not stacking as they (maybe) should. Its not 100% fixed yet, but closer to the fix than CDPR has put out.

Sure, some of these fixes have to be 'actively applied' each time you start up a save game - but it IS fixing it.

These have only dropped in the last few days as the results of the official mod tools were released - I can't wait to see what else modders fix in the coming weeks.

Now the real question is - will these things that modders were able to fix be "fixed" formally by CDPR in the Feb. Patch? For CDPR (and all those console players out there) I REALLY hope so! (esp. the vulnerability and those 20 point perks!!)

- - - Updated - - -

I just came across this on reddit - only posting here as I've not read it anywhere else and just want console players to be aware.

Vulnerability is NOT due to mods. And NOT only on PC.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkga..._against_cdpr/

That's where I found it. It links to the original cyberpunk forum thread. Just passing on the info!

[rhorle]

Vulnerability is NOT due to mods. And NOT only on PC.

The vulnerability occurs with mods but is not present in all mods. The second screenshot in the linked thread states as much. There can be malicious mods (or anything) that make use of the vulnerability in the externall dll files and the game. This is why the statement from CDPR is perfectly fine. It is general cyber security warnings of "don't do stupid stuff and you'll be fine".

The two vulnerabilities are one in the game and the second in a microsoft file the game makes use of. Mods can apparently fix the issue with the game until CDPR fixes it but the vulnerability in the dll files won't be fixed until microsoft pushes a fix. The explanation I've seen is that it can act like a worm which is why they issue a warning about save files or mods. You could have an infected copy and not know it.

I've seen people say you could use it to jail break a console, gain access to geforce NOW, and a bunch of other stuff including the CDPR servers. But no one blamed the modding community. It is just the easiest form of spread.

[Sorshen]

https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/sta...48125403590660

CDPR got hacked, source code is on the loose. Netrunners are vicious these days.

[Graeham]

Things just seem to keep getting worse for them.

[Kelduril]

I can't imagine an universe in which Cyberpunk's writing is said to be 'average' but people recommend Pathfinder Kingsmaker, which is probably the most generically written RPG I've ever seen.

Literally every companion is built around 3 adjectives. It's like they're caricatures.

[Proskill]

CP77 and W3 source codes got sold on auctions

wat now?

[ati87]

CP77 and W3 source codes got sold on auctions

wat now?

Nothing.
Both games can be played without DRM, so it's not like the either games are hard to find illegal copies.
No game developer wouldn't dare to even look at the codes and risk using even some lines which would open them up for lawsuits if ever discovered.

Maybe somebody can correct me on this but honestly I really don't see much value of what was stolen. If a game isn't released yet or if there is a online component tot the game then sure it would hurt.

[hellhamster]

I got stuck in the quest with Takemura saying he will call me, but he never does.
This still hasn't been fixed yet and I can't continue. The last time I saved prior to that quest was 20 hours before, in order to reset it.

Fuck this game and fuck the devs.

[Proskill]

Nothing.
Both games can be played without DRM, so it's not like the either games are hard to find illegal copies.
No game developer wouldn't dare to even look at the codes and risk using even some lines which would open them up for lawsuits if ever discovered.

Maybe somebody can correct me on this but honestly I really don't see much value of what was stolen. If a game isn't released yet or if there is a online component tot the game then sure it would hurt.

maybe its the REDS themselves that bought the source codes

[Rustedsaint]

Nothing.
Both games can be played without DRM, so it's not like the either games are hard to find illegal copies.
No game developer wouldn't dare to even look at the codes and risk using even some lines which would open them up for lawsuits if ever discovered.

Maybe somebody can correct me on this but honestly I really don't see much value of what was stolen. If a game isn't released yet or if there is a online component tot the game then sure it would hurt.

Game devos steal source code all the time, lawsuits can’t do shit if the game devos are in China,Korea, South America, South Africa.

Of course we are assuming they did get hacked and this isn’t a plot for sympathy

[kaintk]

I got stuck in the quest with Takemura saying he will call me, but he never does.
This still hasn't been fixed yet and I can't continue. The last time I saved prior to that quest was 20 hours before, in order to reset it.

Fuck this game and fuck the devs.

tell us all why it is the devs responsability, go ahead, we awaiting your good argument about it

[Graeham]

How isn't it the development team's responsibility to fix bugs that prevent people from progressing in the game they developed...?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

How isn't it the development team's responsibility to fix bugs that prevent people from progressing in the game they developed...?

When higher ups say "No fam time to release"

[hellhamster]

tell us all why it is the devs responsability, go ahead, we awaiting your good argument about it

They designed a game that's literally unplayable even after a myriad patches? I don't mind bugs, but this shit is downright unplayable.

[Tech614]

Game devos steal source code all the time, lawsuits can’t do shit if the game devos are in China,Korea, South America, South Africa.

Of course we are assuming they did get hacked and this isn’t a plot for sympathy

Yes, they steal good source codes from the likes of Nintendo and Capcom etc not some buggy piece of trash games that are a coding mess. There is literally no value in reverse engineering CDPR's source codes.

[Rustedsaint]

Yes, they steal good source codes from the likes of Nintendo and Capcom etc not some buggy piece of trash games that are a coding mess. There is literally no value in reverse engineering CDPR's source codes.

While it is full of bugs, there is still a lot of work that can be used to make/shorten development time on other games.
I know from previous posts you pretty much do nothing but hate on things blindly but keep in mind that this studio still made a lot of money on this bug ridden game. That alone will get the attention of people who buy code.