Patch 5.2 - PTR Build 16467

[Boubouille]

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[Madruga]

Do the changes in the Cutting Edge feats mean there won't be a buff/nerf in the 5.0 raids?

[artem123]

Do the changes in the Cutting Edge feats mean there won't be a buff/nerf in the 5.0 raids?

seems like it, guess the buffs might just be counted as upgrades maybe?

[Axelond]

Druid buffs, disc priests nerfs should help balance out the edges of healing rankings. However Spirit shell untouched still seems a bit strong but i guess we will wait and see how it plays out

[Balmazer]

Do the changes in the Cutting Edge feats mean there won't be a buff/nerf in the 5.0 raids?

It's probably too early to tell, although it's probably still going to get nerfed. I assume they're just clarifying it so someone playing the game can just look at the achievement and know what that person did as they're kind of vague for someone that wasn't doing the content at the time.

[Deleted]

Warrior damage buff? Totally needed.

...shiiiit

[Duster505]

10% extra healing buff for Druids sounds way over the top. It also feels very lazy to add flat buff.

Question is what class will be left out in 5.2? To me it looks like holy palas are in for a torrid times. Blizzard has ignored their feedback so far and seems to be focusing on other specs and classes. Another Sunwell incoming? Looking at the 2 and 4 stat bonuses - it looks pretty clear.

[Hapes]

Druid buffs, disc priests nerfs should help balance out the edges of healing rankings. However Spirit shell untouched still seems a bit strong but i guess we will wait and see how it plays out

LOL.... all they just did was make Disc as shitty as holy. Funny part is GC had said this was the intent. Idiots.
Both specs now will have shit regen. Disc just lost every advantage it had. See you at the bottom of the meters. They alrdy took mastery away from SPirit Shell so that spell won't be as strong by far.
Rapture from 250% to 100% lol GG

[solvent]

LOL.... all they just did was make Disc as shitty as holy. Funny part is GC had said this was the intent. Idiots.
Both specs now will have shit regen. Disc just lost every advantage it had. See you at the bottom of the meters. They alrdy took mastery away from SPirit Shell so that spell won't be as strong by far.
Rapture from 250% to 100% lol GG

Did you miss the part about halving the cost of PW:S?

[Penguintamer]

Wow, did they seriously just completely REMOVE Divine Aegis from Prayer of Healing?

It was underpowered when it was 30% of a PoH, so they buff it to 50%, and then say that it's overpowered. So they nerf it to 0%? What kind of backwards fucking logic is this. That was Discipline's ONLY decent potential for AoE healing/prevention outside of Spirit Shell, and it's absolutely awful to only have decent AoE on a 1 minute CD.

[Deleted]

10 Rage cost for overpower, what a joke ...

[Duster505]

Wow, did they seriously just completely REMOVE Divine Aegis from Prayer of Healing?

It was underpowered when it was 30% of a PoH, so they buff it to 50%, and then say that it's overpowered. So they nerf it to 0%? What kind of backwards fucking logic is this. That was Discipline's ONLY decent potential for AoE healing/prevention outside of Spirit Shell, and it's absolutely awful to only have decent AoE on a 1 minute CD.

Discipline - to the ground
Restro druid - back on top !

This is how Blizzard "balances" things.

[Nathanyel]

Do the changes in the Cutting Edge feats mean there won't be a buff/nerf in the 5.0 raids?

Sounds rather like Throne of Thunder might not be available right away - probably just a fixed time, but (speculating) it could also be similar to the original idea for the Isle of Quel'Danas/Sunwell, in that server progress through dailies is required to unlock the raid.

[Adeivus]

Burning seed...a way for druids to get the fire cat form without the staff from the Firelands?

[Shaley]

1.8 speed Agility Weapon?

What?

[Hapes]

Did you miss the part about halving the cost of PW:S?

yeah and? Rapture still only procs every 12 secs........
Now imagine a 25 man with 2 discs.... Fighting to break a bubble or find someone who doesnt have a shield debuff......
these nerfs will gut Disc down to holy levels... which is pathetic.

[Shaley]

yeah and? Rapture still only procs every 12 secs........
Now imagine a 25 man with 2 discs.... Fighting to break a bubble or find someone who doesnt have a shield debuff......
these nerfs will gut Disc down to holy levels... which is pathetic.

5.2 is coming out tomorrow? And here I thought that this was PTR, where everything was subject to change on a daily basis.

This is coming from a 25% "The Sky is Falling" Bladeflurry "nerf", which actually resulted in a BUFF for the skill.

[Nosferato]

wow blizz sure did alot with smokebomb, how on earth is smokebomb gonna be any good when, almost any raid cd covers the entire raid(40 yards) has immunities for caster interupts effects and lasts longer than a smoke bomb, smoke bomb only has a 8 yard range and lasts 5 sec, once again blizz puts the least amount of effort into rogues skills.

8 yards 3 min cd vs 40 yards 3 min cd, just saying.

[Deleted]

That mage 2p set was too good to be true.
Now we simply get a lame enchant proc..woo you go blizz!

[Shaley]

wow blizz sure did alot with smokebomb, how on earth is smokebomb gonna be any good when, almost any raid cd covers the entire raid and lasts much longer than a smoke bomb, smoke bomb only has a small range and lasts 5 sec, once again blizz puts the least amount of effort into rogues skills

Perhaps you do not play a rogue and shouldn't comment on rogue abilities? I don't have a mage, so I wouldn't be a good person to talk about mage nerfs and buffs.

If you do play a rogue, though, you should know how to (very) effectively use Smoke Bomb in PVP, and PVE as well. This is a fantastic buff to a glyphed Smoke Bomb for PVPers.