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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by zerocoolhack View Post
    In the first video the women and the man need to be sterilized in this case. This needs to be taught that this behavior is unacceptable.
    Too late for that, they both already have 40 kids combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    I don't think 100% of the population will be stupid. But I think as hundreads of years pass we will separate more and more into 2 races. One smart but with problems, health ones especially, and one as dumb as dumb as rocks and of more slaves then anything.
    This is pretty much my view. A smart but slower breeding species and a strong fast breeding but dumber than shit species.

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    i beleive well breed out the intelligence...its already happening

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    i mean THE LEARNING CHANNEL(TLC) hosts a fat retarded disgusting pig of a child on there who needs foodpoisening and to be sterilised so those gawd aweful genes dont polute the gene pool any more then what it is
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrun33 View Post
    They might be more likely to attend secondary education, but you make the grave mistake of assuming causation out of correlation. There could be any number of reasons that might affect that outcome.

    Here are a couple off the top of my head:

    1. Money.
    A. College graduates typically have higher earnings than their peers who do not have the same level of education, and can afford to help their child afford college.
    B. Those with a higher socioeconomic status often live in better areas with better rated public or private school systems, which might in turn affect college admission rates and success once enrolled.

    2. Family/Society
    A. Perhaps those with a college education view it as a positive and/or necessary experience for their progeny, pushing that point of view. Those who are expected to go to secondary education with that POV pushed since an early age may be more likely to attend/complete.
    B. In an environment where the school and perhaps even friends are discussing what school they should attend when they finish HS, peer pressure to succeed/follow suit might also be similarly expected.


    The point is, while evidence supports that people with college educations produce children who also get college educations, it is EXTREMELY presumptuous to assume why that reason is.
    At no point does he say there is causation between the two. He merely pointed out the correlation between the two. You went and assumed he was saying there is a genetic causation or something. He just said, let's note debate nature vs. nurture. Then he said studies show that children of college educated parents are more likely to go to college themselves. He never said he supports either nature or nurture or any combination there of, he simply asked that people stick to facts and data.

    On topic, I don't see the population going stupid. One thing I could see happening is more and more genetic defects degrading humanity.

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    It is indeed a problem. I don't even understand how getting a serious job with responsibility requires years of education, driving requires a license, carrying a gun requires a license, but making and raising children, the most important and responsible thing there is, requires to just stick a dick in the hole. Parenting should require a license, too. Obligatory vasectomy for everyone until you prove you are worthy to bring up the future of this planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clevername View Post
    Let's not get into the whole nature vs. nurture crap shall we? Plenty of evidence out there to support the fact that children of college graduates are more likely to attend secondary education themselves.
    Just because someone went to college doesn't mean they are smart, just means they had the money to do so. I've met more than my share of people with doctorate level degrees that were just plain fuckin stupid overall.

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    No.

    The movie is satire, not some magical time machine-induced documentary that predicts that people will forget what WATER is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    No.

    The movie is satire, not some magical time machine-induced documentary that predicts that people will forget what WATER is.
    but water sucks, it has no electrolytes!!! More Gatorade please, good for the body, and I feed it to my plants too!

  10. #30
    It seems to me we're already well on our way.

    Intellect will continue to consolidate itself among the few while the dysgenic effect of stupid people's high fertility rates will compound itself over generations.

    What will eventually happen is billions of morons will be wholly dependent on a relatively small intellectual (possibly ruling) elite.

    And the billions of morons will demand equality with those who keep society afloat despite the fact that society could continue without the majority of humanity at that point.... but not the other way around.

    And their numbers mean they'll get it... because socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    It seems to me we're already well on our way.

    Intellect will continue to consolidate itself among the few while the dysgenic effect of stupid people's high fertility rates will compound itself over generations.

    What will eventually happen is billions of morons will be wholly dependent on a relatively small intellectual (possibly ruling) elite.

    And the billions of morons will demand equality with those who keep society afloat despite the fact that society could continue without the majority of humanity at that point.... but not the other way around.

    And their numbers mean they'll get it... because socialism.
    I see plenty of morons who are against socialism walking among us, they would not be a part of the intellectual ruling elite in this made up scenario of yours.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Intelligence certainly has a significant genetic component to it, but it seems clear that it is neither 100% heritable nor completely determined by nature alone (from twins studies).
    I find it hard to believe that an uneducated, low intelligence couple could turn out someone like this.

    She and her sisters are the result of an experiment where her parents decided to experiment with creating genius via child rearing.

    All 3 sisters are either chess grandmasters or international masters.

    Whether their talent comes purely from hard work or genetics is impossible to say, to be sure, but that doesn't really matter. What does matter is that your average Western family (whether American or European) lacks either the genetic or educational foundation to create a genius with anything close to the reliability that the Polgárs have done.

    Point is, the nature vs nurture debate seems largely irrelevant when you consider that their experiment has shown that genius can reliably breed genius... and history proves every day that stupidity breeds stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystile View Post
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    Seriously, a plastic sign with "help" printed on it for 4 dollars? Whatfor?

    What is this I don't even... o.O

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by zeropeorth View Post
    but water sucks, it has no electrolytes!!! More Gatorade please, good for the body, and I feed it to my plants too!
    You mean Brawndo. And, yes, water comes from the toilet. I've never seen plants grow in the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    I see plenty of morons who are against socialism walking among us, they would not be a part of the intellectual ruling elite in this made up scenario of yours.
    Well to be perfectly honest, the true intellectuals won't be part of the ruling elite either.

    Stupid people have a tendency to not actually vote for smart people. They, instead, vote for stupid people who sound like smart people to them.

    I am against Socialism, by the way.

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    I think it could be possible, though not exactly probable. Maybe when we come to the point where we already came up with all our technologic needs it might happen.
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  18. #38
    Surely It's a simple numbers game.

    Smart people are simply that. smarter. they wait till they are ready for kids. they do it right. this takes more time factoring in careers etc..

    Stupid people dont care. they just want to fuck. so they are churning them out at a much faster rate, and not caring about the impact it will have.

    combine that with modern medicine making it so stupid people stay alive longer (by that I mean idiots who without modern medicine wouldve died whilst say.. climbing a fence to break into somebodies yard and impaled their leg on the fence. if modern meds werent around to save him, he wouldve bled out. thus depriving the world of his future offspring (Although I doubt we missed out on much.)

    in short, Science has made it so stupid people can live as long as the thinkers. the thinkers breed at a slower smarter rate. we will be a minority soon enough.

  19. #39
    The first video reminds me of my friends sister. One had a kid with some guy who had 9 other kids and works part time at Wendys.

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    I kinda want to buy one of those help cards just to see what they say.

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