Death Siphon 5.2

[Tyrean]

Well, when I am going to turtle right now I actually will build up a full RP bar beforehand to lichborne heal so conversion will just be more effective for me personally. I think we can all tell when we are about to get bursted and can build up some RP to pocket for that. Also, unholy PvP already has a sort of rogue mentality to pooling RP as it is so a little adjustment to what you do with your RP to still damage but have a nice RP pool in case you get into trouble will be nice.

5 RP initial, 5 RP per sec for 3% heal (assuming they fix the !conversion macro)... To go from say 30% to 80% behind a pillar would cost you 88 Runic Power and 17 seconds. I think a more reasonable pillar hump is 8 seconds, so you can spend 45 RP for a 24% heal whenever you please. I will take that over a 50% heal every two minutes any day of the week.

Oh, and I honestly have never ran conversion in it's current form but I would assume the only allows base RP regen from skills while active would negate the PvP set bonus.

[Unholyground]

From a PvE standpoint DS for frost will rock due to perma death runes.

[sporadic]

If you aren't bad and macro DP with your ghoul, it doesn't cost an extra GCD. Even better, you can pop blood presence before sac and get even more of a heal, since it heals for 50% on your MAX hp.

Did you see the latest blue posts? %life will stay the same moving into and out of blood presence in 5.2 so this won't hold any advantage anymore.

(cant link to it as I haven't posted enough times. It is on the front page of this website)

[Nillo]

Did you see the latest blue posts? %life will stay the same moving into and out of blood presence in 5.2 so this won't hold any advantage anymore.

(cant link to it as I haven't posted enough times. It is on the front page of this website)

I think this change is actually a buff to stance dancing ~

[Hyve]

Conversion has a rune cost, effectivly, as does Siphon...and a death rune at that. They'll be alot better, but pact will still be king.

This is what I am thinking. I would love to use Siphon, but currently on Live, it isn't worth it at all, and in Patch 5.2 the rune cost will still be off-putting. I'd rather get a heal and shield from my Death Strike. Though, it depends on the values per character, but I believe in PvE Death Pact will still reign supreme.

[sporadic]

I think this change is actually a buff to stance dancing ~

It is from the point of view that moving into Blood instantly grants you more health but death pact is a heal based on a % so it wont make any difference anymore, you can death pact and then switch stance, or visa versa with the same result.

[Rgthreex]

It's going to depend on the comp you play vs cleaves DP will be best but against wizards I feel like conversion will be more viable

[Deleted]

From a PvE standpoint DS for frost will rock due to perma death runes.

Unholy as well due to the 4 death runes they can make from festering/IT