5.2 Agility Trinkets

[Deleted]

Until today i was using Hc-bottle 2/2 and relic of Xuen 2/2 but i got renataki's 522 should i swap it with relic?

[Tehstool]

Yeah, because simcraft has been always right in the past... Yeah ok.

[dzidek]

I'm confused about trinkets... I have H Bottle 2/2, H Terror 2/2 and Bad Juju right now. I choose for use (just common sens, zero maths) H Terror and Bad Juju. And from what I read here, I made a big mistake... I don't have VP to buy trinket (spent on ring + wrists) but maybe I can refund one of them.

Why Bad Juju is so bad? Why Bottle > Terror? Plz help

[Saoron]

H bottle over all the normal trinkets available this tier ? Sims don't reliably evaluate rppm, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. If anything, with the more crit we'll get with more ilvls, relic becomes even stronger. Devai already considered it to be better than bottle in t14. If a higher proc chance is assumed, passive agi with an agi proc is just hard to ignore.

[Beoren]

Many hunters are using Renataki's Soul Charm, my calculation suggest that if it has more then 22% uptime its better than HC Bottle.

correct my math if im wrong:
1333*(20+18+16......+2)/20=7333~ agility per second,
HC Bottle is 40% uptime and gives an average of 1600~ agility per second.

if Renatakis has more then 22% uptime it gives more then 1600 agility per second, RealPPM is 0.56 which means 1 proc every 2mins~?
16.7% uptime?

thoughts?

[eschatological]

Many hunters are using Rentaki's because it drops off the first boss, and people are getting stuck after that.

[Deleted]

Did some tests in Femaledwarf today and renataki's was pulling ahead by 500 dps from my Relic.

[Tehstool]

Many hunters are using Renataki's Soul Charm, my calculation suggest that if it has more then 22% uptime its better than HC Bottle.

correct my math if im wrong:
1333*(20+18+16......+2)/20=7333~ agility per second,
HC Bottle is 40% uptime and gives an average of 1600~ agility per second.

if Renatakis has more then 22% uptime it gives more then 1600 agility per second, RealPPM is 0.56 which means 1 proc every 2mins~?
16.7% uptime?

thoughts?

My thoughts are that it doesn't give any agility.

[Deleted]

Tehstool is it certain that the VP trinket is BIS?Cause for me in femaledwarf it is 800 dps loss from Relic of Xuen and a 119 dps from renataki's.

[Tehstool]

Tehstool is it certain that the VP trinket is BIS?Cause for me in femaledwarf it is 800 dps loss from Relic of Xuen and a 119 dps from renataki's.

You must not be reforging the hit, because it is much better than those.

[Deleted]

You must not be reforging the hit, because it is much better than those.

Yeah silly me tottaly forgot about that though after a few more tests Bottle 2/2+renataki's is pulling ahead by 129dps over Bottle 2/2+Vicious talisman.

[Tehstool]

Yeah silly me tottaly forgot about that though after a few more tests Bottle 2/2+renataki's is pulling ahead by 129dps over Bottle 2/2+Vicious talisman.

Take the new RPPM trinket results with a grain of salt. At the top it states:

Note that RPPM based items may not be modeled accurately yet.

The trinkets are terrible, renatakis is .56 RPPM meaning .56 proc a minute. Which means a proc every 1.78571428572 minutes. So a proc every minute and 47.1428571432 seconds (on average). Renataki's ramp up time looks like this: (I have the trinket, accidentally clicked the roll icon ) ((1333+1333*2+1333*3+1333*4+1333*5+1333*6+1333*7+1333*8+1333*9+1333*10) * 2)/ (107.142857143) = 1368.54666666

So you'd be getting an average of ~1368.54666666 agility before haste. The VP trinket gives 8800 agi for 20 seconds every 105 seconds or every 1 minute and 45 seconds, so 8800 * 20 / 105 = 1676.19047619 agi. So they have just about the same proc time, but the VP trinket is steady agi and more reliable for proccing and has ~300 more agility.

[Megazorrd]

I have my eyes set on the heroic thunder forged soul charm. Going to do big things

[Tehstool]

I have my eyes set on the heroic thunder forged soul charm. Going to do big things

Big things like what?

[Megazorrd]

It's a secret =)

[Deleted]

Take the new RPPM trinket results with a grain of salt. At the top it states:



The trinkets are terrible, renatakis is .56 RPPM meaning .56 proc a minute. Which means a proc every 1.78571428572 minutes. So a proc every minute and 47.1428571432 seconds (on average). Renataki's ramp up time looks like this: (I have the trinket, accidentally clicked the roll icon ) ((1333+1333*2+1333*3+1333*4+1333*5+1333*6+1333*7+1333*8+1333*9+1333*10) * 2)/ (107.142857143) = 1368.54666666

So you'd be getting an average of ~1368.54666666 agility before haste. The VP trinket gives 8800 agi for 20 seconds every 105 seconds or every 1 minute and 45 seconds, so 8800 * 20 / 105 = 1676.19047619 agi. So they have just about the same proc time, but the VP trinket is steady agi and more reliable for proccing and has ~300 more agility.

Your math is correct and it makes sense though femaledwarf seems to value renataki's more.

[Okacz]

I'm really looking forward to Renataki for one simple reason.

I'm playing MM now, with Powershot (amazing talent after the fix). Powershot itself can crit for way over 300k damage, being a significant boost in dps every 1 minute, and even better if used properly (lined up with haste/RAS effects).

Now add two facts together: Renataki reaches its peak every minute +a few seconds. Powershot becomes availible every minute. So, with correct timing...

[Glurp]

I'm really looking forward to Renataki for one simple reason.

I'm playing MM now, with Powershot (amazing talent after the fix). Powershot itself can crit for way over 300k damage, being a significant boost in dps every 1 minute, and even better if used properly (lined up with haste/RAS effects).

Now add two facts together: Renataki reaches its peak every minute +a few seconds. Powershot becomes availible every minute. So, with correct timing...

I've hit the training dummies for over 2 minutes without having Renataki's proc. However it is amazing if you want to line up 10stack (13330 agility) with your final Lynx Rush application to have an insanely powerful bleed.

[Puerto]

Big things like what?

Slightly higher DPS numbers.

[Aenok]

I need some help with trinkets this tier. I'm currently using the Shado-Pan trinket and the twice upgraded Relic of Xuen. I already passed the Juju to our mistweaver for his os since I don't think it would be that great for me. Should I stick with the ones I have, or are there any superior trinkets before HM?