Guys,
I appreciate all of the great information and advice given on the 52 pages of this thread. However, in order to save others from constantly asking either/or questions, would it be possible for one of the great minds on this thread to make a list of BiS trinkets for each spec, with the associated stat order? It would be a great list to sticky and maintain as Blizzard continues to make adjustments. Thanks.
I agree with this guy ^
But I also have a trinket question. I'm an SV Hunter with 517 ilvl. I have these trinkets:
Bad Juju (502)
Renataki's Soul Charm (522)
Relic of Xuen (484) <- fully upgraded
Which should I use? I also have enough for the Shado-Pan Assault trinket, but I haven't bought it yet because I don't think I need it. Opinions?
Renataki's and Bad Juju.
the reason a best in slot list is hard to make for trinkets, is because everyone has vastly different stats which change rankings per trinket per person. Some people have room for expertise making renataki's really good, others dont have the room. Same with the vp trinket. Also some people have low amounts of haste lowering the values of ppm trinkets. Some may also only have one ppm item which may not yet allow them to go haste over mastery. What may be best for some, isnt for others. The best way to find out is by simming your character as well as testing (preferably in a raid environment fully buffed) .
What we know is :
RSC and BJ are probably BiS (some people favor talisman but general consensus is RSC and BJ)
Rune is junk, do not use
Speculation:
if at the point of stacking haste over mastery 502 BJ or 502 RSC should beat 484 relic.
There is no blanket answer for all. The only answer for yourself is through testing and simming
There is an answer, LFR Bad Juju is better than 2/2 Relic. Renataki's and Bad Juju aren't "probably" BiS, they ARE BiS, and the ones using Talisman probably have had crap luck or are just messing around with it.
I'd love a list of all the trinkets and their quality in order from BiS to worst. I only do LFR, so reading that heroic BJ is my BiS is useless for me, but I still want to properly gear myself.
RSC 541
BJ 541
RSC 535
BJ 535
RSC 528
BJ 528
ToB 541
RSC 522
BJ 522
ToB 535
VP trinket 522
ToB 528
ToB 522
RSC 502
BJ 502
Relic of Xuen 484
ToB 502
I have tested 502 BJ, 522 ToB, 522 VP trinket, and am currently using 522 BJ and 535 RSC. Have 0 clue if 484 relic beats 502 ToB, but thats my guess
My best guess from my testing in game with what i have. Let the "no, you're wrong idiot" posts begin
Where does 510 Bottle end up on your list?
probably above 484 relic, below 502 BJ.
Would Bad JuJu (502 RF) and Shadow pan trinket (1750 valor 522 ilvl) be a good combination for me hunter? Using 2 RPPM trinkets?
The VP trinket is not a RPPM, it has a static ICD, but yes it is a good combo if that's all you have right now, that's what I was using until normal BJ dropped.
One of the reasons i liked the VP trinket so much (besides having room for all of the hit) was the fact that it procced on pull reliably to line up with blowing all cds. 8800 agi for 20 seconds when doing your max dps pushed it ahead of any 502 trinket imo.
You'd need like ~30% uptime on LFR trinkets to make their agi gain the same, which doesn't happen frequently. Basically ilvl is key with the agi proc trinkets.
LFR Bad Juju or VP trinket?
I just got a heroic TF zenkakis or w/e which obv is beast.
edit
shit I just got my heroic tortos bow. I probably want to dump the VP for hit right? hit/exp on a weapon bleh.
Last edited by Danshot; 2013-05-01 at 03:09 AM.
Have read a ton of stuff and pretty much came to the conclusion that Juju and RSC are the 2 trinkets to go far but so far have seen neither so right now i have VP 522 Shado-pan trinket and ToB 528 equipped and I just picked up the Rune 522 last night should i change one of the ones I have out for that one I am having trouble simming in FD but to me it looks like the 2 I have equipped are better by a little?
Thanks
Talisman of Bloodlust (LFR VERSION) / vicious talisman of shado-pan assault
OR
Vicious Talisman/Bad Juju (LFR version)
Basically asking if Bad juju is better than Talisman of bloodlust
Yes, BJ is better.
Rune of Reorg
VP Trinket
Relic (2/2)
which two do you think? i am able to use all but about 1% of the hit