Hm, I wonder, Focus Fire and Rapid Fire both say haste like Hero/TW/BL, and ISS says ASPD, like rogue's Slice and Dice and like 10% raid buff.
So BM is only spec that gets extra RPPM value.
Still, losing 10% raid buff hurts all the trinkets' values.
Hm, I wonder, Focus Fire and Rapid Fire both say haste like Hero/TW/BL, and ISS says ASPD, like rogue's Slice and Dice and like 10% raid buff.
So BM is only spec that gets extra RPPM value.
Still, losing 10% raid buff hurts all the trinkets' values.
Old Gods made me do it.
Are you sure of this? Focus Fire specifies ranged haste, not attack speed. Steady Focus DOES say attack speed, so I expected that one.
That said, I'm getting the same results as you currently:
Rep Trinket > H Bottle > H Bloodlust
edit: bah, didn't refresh... already been covered
So basically I replace my Relic with the Shadopan trinket, keep my upgraded H Bottle and am set until 5.4? Lame.
I'm guessing FD isn't updated to reflect the new PPM behavior - Thestool, do you have any numbers for the shado-pan trinket vs H TITM and Relic of xuen at BIS level and entry level (~510 average for most heroic hunters I'd guess) laying around?
You seem surprised that the newest class that was essentially a worse version of rogues (same gear, same weapons, same limitations, none of the benefits) needed more focus than a class that "works" and is "original" compared to everything else. Yes, pets not getting buffs are fucking annoying, and it'll probably get us sat if Lei Shen heroic or Ra Den has those mechanics, but they obviously have to focus on an entire class being subpar on everything <.<. See the big picture.
Something interesting GC said in the thread:
- Proc rate multiplied by 0.1 for non-melee specs. Proc rate multiplied by 0.25 against player controlled units. Proc rate multiplied by 1/(1.15^((528-ItemLevel)/15) for the various Item Level versions of the trinket.
What are peoples thoughts on this considering how undervalued most of the trinkets are already?
That's what I got at entry gear level - but not quite what I'm showing at BiS.
With the BiS setup I made (admittedly somewhat hastily, but it should give a good reference), I'm showing:
Rep trinket: 10743 dps
H BL: 10342 dps
TiTM: 9972 dps
Bottle: 9691 dps
haven't bothered simming the other ones, they don't really seem like contenders (and of course the bottle/TiTM are heroic 2/2)
Actually, I think that's just for the rune of re-origination.
It probably does apply to hunters in a bugged fashion. I was on the PTR and attacked a dummy for a collective time of about ~45 minutes and I didn't get any procs. Multiplying the proc chance by .1 would put be reducing the proc chance by 90% so that could be it possibly.
Oh, I noticed it too. I only got 1 proc of Rune in like 10 min...
Old Gods made me do it.
IDK mans, GC has lumped us in with "melee" a couple times in the past. I'd be -very- surprised if any of those proc chances were lowered for hunters intentionally, considering it's an agi trinket.
I'll tweet GC about it again since it's not fixed because some poor soul is going to get the trinket in LFR and it would be bad that it's not proccing.