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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Deserve? We're fucking animals... do tigers "deserve" to live on earth?

    Jeez, the arrogance of humans... We are so above everything else that we have to ponder if we "deserve" to exist?
    Just the ones who do not see the role they play in a game of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Indeed, I would even go as far to argue that we humans actually are good for the planet; we recycle and try to do as little harm as possible to nature. We got the ability to grasp the bigger picture here, we may be the first species that takes such extreme care in taking care of our nature. Of course, far from all of us are like that; many humans are still letting their emotions control them too much. But we have the potential, which can go either way (nuclear war isn't that awesome).

    You also have to keep in mind that 99% of all species that ever has existed are now extinct. So we are not quite the bogeymen some like to make us believe.
    Exactly. Would you say the first anaerobic bacteria who polluted the whole planet with Oxygen did not deserve the Earth?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arganis View Post
    Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.


    Is the exact quote and, while the Matrix may be full of cheese, to me this is 100% true... well the conclusion anyways.
    You gonna start purging the virus then? Starting with..... :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teeruk View Post
    I couldn't help myself from posting this quote
    "I'd like to share a revelation I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, You move to an area and you multiply... and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague"
    Quote Originally Posted by Arganis View Post
    Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.


    Is the exact quote and, while the Matrix may be full of cheese, to me this is 100% true... well the conclusion anyways.
    Any animal in our place would be equally destructive, this is easy to demonstrate by translplanting species into environments that did not evolve around them.
    The matrix quote around mammals is 100% bullshit. There is no natural psychic mammal equilibrium, just competing organisms evolving in tandem.
    We've got as much right as anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juvencus View Post
    Evolution does not have a plan, it does not work progressively or "upwards". Different characters work differently in different environments. It just so happened that intelligence and tool usage is universally advantageous.

    Just because humans are more intelligent than the rest of the animal kingdom, it doesn't make us any less animals ourselves.
    That is not what I was suggesting. I was implying that there are factors which make us exceptional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    I don't believe anyone has the authority to determine the answer to this question for the entire human race. We exist here. If anyone thinks we don't deserve to be here, they can go ahead and advance their cause by offing themselves first, but don't expect me to keel over and die just because they think we're a plague or whatever.
    Maybe the titans will come and reoriginate the earth ....

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    We do because we're better than all the animals! I don't think we deserve to live since we're still fighting each other still which doesn't separate us from the animals.

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    Could argue it forever. But I do think it just a bit funny to think that we have basically ruined the planet. I'm on the fence though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmoth12 View Post
    Do we or don't we?

    Are we bad for this planet or not? Do we deserve the right to call this planet our home?
    No one deserves what they overall take for granted and treat with little care, however, no one's stopping us at the moment, so we can continue to be self indulgent, ignorant parasites and call this blue ball floatin' round the sun our home.

    If that sounds too harsh, at least we have the potential to change, do some good and improve or repair the earth from time to time. We're not all bad. The Earth would be predictable without us.
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    Deserve..implies we answer to someone, as if we must earn our keep from someone or something..what? We don't deserve it, because we don't need to earn it, we exist here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Exactly this. And the planet and evolution will decide if we keep that right.
    I posted a topic similar to this a while ago but im too lazy to find it so ill summarize it.

    Pretty much us humans are preventing endangered species from going extinct which is interfering with evolution.

    For example there are two different species of owls and one of the species is dying out because the other specie is better at hunting than the other owl as well as they out number them. So what we humans do? We are killing off the one that is better at hunting to "balance" it out which is really stupid.

    Imo just let it die so nature can run its course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette55 View Post
    Don't you agree that humanity is above the non-sapients?
    We're not above being animals who inhabit this planet though, we're merely more advanced.

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    Since we're the only beings on Earth capable of making that judgment, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ave07 View Post
    We do because we're better than all the animals! I don't think we deserve to live since we're still fighting each other still which doesn't separate us from the animals.
    Wait wait wait... What?.. You don't think we deserve to live, since we're still fighting eachother. (Most animals do not goto "war" or fight at all with eachother.)

    Humans do, but yet you think humans are some how "better" than animals. But then you say we're separate from the animals.

    I have no idea what you're saying.. And honestly, I don't think you do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Since we're the only beings on Earth capable of making that judgment, yes.
    Let me guess, you've asked the Owls right? Nature's bookworms.. (lol)
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    well we did manage to kick the living daylights out of our competitors many thousand years ago, and established ourselves as being the top dog of the food chain, not mention that we build great civilizations. While we may not be the physically strongest predator on this planet we found ways to help us overcome the physically stronger ones and emerged on the top. Yes i believe we deserve to live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette55 View Post
    Don't you agree that humanity is above the non-sapients?


    no not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choptimus View Post
    Evolution seems to think so.
    This. The stronger kills the stronger and all that.

    Also, let not bad people be the ultimate judge over others. Yes we are ruining Earth, but at the same time atleast some people can achknowledge that we need to treat it well.
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    Do we deserve? No. Do we have any other choice? No.

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