Flat mana restore vs. spirit gain (trinket discussion)

[Fenixdown]

So, upon looking at the upcoming trinket releases I see that there is less of an overall focus on regeneration stats and more of a focus on interesting usage. The two new trinkets which focus more on mana restoration use a fixed amount of mana rather than dealing with a procced spirit increase.

That said, as a whole, which is better for mana intensive situations? The Assault trinket has a three minute cooldown, while the on use Shieldwall trinket has only one. Last Grasp restores 9,350 mana at no ICD but a PPM of 1.00, while Spirits has a 105 sec. ICD and a 15% proc chance off of any healing ability.

I have upgraded both of the listed trinkets already to 504. So, that said, for regenerative purposes, which comes out on top? The math has eluded me a bit, as I'm still thinking that the older trinkets would be better served for mana intensive situations than the newer ones.

I am thinking more in the realm of usage for holy. With the changes to Rapture, I would say it is a safe bet that for discipline the new trinkets would likely come out to be better as a whole. Though any feedback on either spec is appreciated.

[HPLathus]

There was a post on the forums a few days ago that had MP5 breakdowns for priests.


I believe the flat mana return trinkets yielded higher mp5 then current tier trinkets

[Shuror]

I am thinking more in the realm of usage for holy. With the changes to Rapture, I would say it is a safe bet that for discipline the new trinkets would likely come out to be better as a whole. Though any feedback on either spec is appreciated.

Disc still scales significantly better with spirit than Holy, thus the trinkets will be better for Holy. If Rapture had a static mana return the specs would scale the same, but that isn't the case.

[Kalmah]

Disc still scales significantly better with spirit than Holy, thus the trinkets will be better for Holy. If Rapture had a static mana return the specs would scale the same, but that isn't the case.

In 5.2, rapture won't scale with spirit procs anymore.

[Fenixdown]

Interesting, Holy. I do have a tendency to "hoard" healing trinkets, anyway (by the end of Cataclysm I had 13-17 trinkets that I brought to raids), so odds are I would do a little bit of personal experimentation.

If anyone else has the link to that post, or any further feedback to offer, it is as always very much appreciated. Thank you.

[HPLathus]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...aling-Trinkets