War/DK/Pala is the 2nd most popular comp over 2.2k.
http://www.crossladder.com/arena/stats/
I also count 10 different hunters in the top 50 teams.
Yay, finally the survivability buffs dks need.
Wait, what ?
and this is why the game is imbalanced from little kids saying they get hit for 400k cos blizz listen to people like you the whiners who have no clue, there is noway a dk can hit you for that unless your nude in shitty green gear or worse or lying
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i guess frost 2h is the yway to go in pvp
I can accept the damage buffs, but Blizzard failing to address how badly Gorefiends Grasp has fucked RBG balance is the real problem. That they are actually making PvP about point grinding, making RBGs the way to point grind, and then failing to balance for RBGS at all is so so stupid.
If you are going to balance for Arena, then reward for Arena, but if you are going to force RBGS on your player base, then balance them.
On Second Thought that Howling Blast buff is horseshit, that faggot GC nerfed Whirlwind into the ground because he doesnt like high single target damage AOE moves, and yet he keeps buffing up Howling Blast.
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As a healer, I am as scared as hell of these buffs to all the damage classes. I understand the ret, rogue,hunter and ely buffs(I assume it is not assan rogue that is almost ones hotting em on the ptr?...). But why not buff enhance damage? They ain't doing the best right now.
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yea agreed, a buff in the wrong direct for sure
I won't be surprised if they increased base resiliance in next build. Althought knowing blizz they can simply leave everything as is and let ppls drill each other a new holes in 2-3 gcds, like it wrath.
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Just a little comparison with warrior damage to what the new frost dk damage will be.
Mortal Strike: 175% WD + 2693.
Obliterate (motfw): 386.4% weapon damage, +25% w/ two disease [straight from the front page]
I wont even bother to mention 15% strength from their rune proc or 20% strength from PoF or the fact that killing machine will make it autocrit.
Everyone got buffed, stop your stupid pointless QQ.Originally Posted by Blizzard
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Frost DKs had a huge nerf in PVE with the changes to 2T14 pieces. Most other classes also got buffed, so seems ok. Its hard to sustain the theory that this change is a PVP balance and not a PVE.
Randomly comparing random abilities and the way they scale is nonsense. obliterate vs Mortal strike or whirlwind vs howling blast... They are different abilities with different places in play styles. ie: HB is a single target ability that does AOE too... It has always been part of frost single target rotation, its kinda the filler for the extra frost runes.
While WW is just a AOE ability like Death and Decay and Blood Boil ...They can be used in a single target rotation if they AOE damage compensates their cost in a single target fight.
DKs are middle table in both PVP and PVE, don't see how this will affect
Maybe you are a Cata player which would explain it, but WHIRLWIND used to be a part of the Warrior single target rotation, for over 6 years it did high single target damage, then along came Cataclysm and GC said that having an AOE move do large single target damage is wrong, and he nerfed it into the ground. So either high single target damage from an AOE ability is wrong and HB should be nerfed, or its ok and Whirlwind should be buffed back into what it used to be in Vanilla, TBC and Wrath!
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I fking hate frost 2handler in PvP but so in love with dual weilding...crap, theyd better buff Frost Strike dual-weilding bonus damage, since it's considered PvE weapon setup for a fdk