Anyone who says Ret Paladin has the best survivability out of all melee is not good at PVP at all, period; you can safely ignore anything they say about Ret Paladins.
Anyone who says Ret Paladin has the best survivability out of all melee is not good at PVP at all, period; you can safely ignore anything they say about Ret Paladins.
in 5.1, 1: Ferals, 2: Warriors 3: Dont know
in 5.2, 1: Retri, 2: Feral 3: DK, 4: Warrior
And to you whiny kids playing Retri, your healing is MUCH upped in 5.2
As much as you try to convince yourself that 5CP + energy is nothing to a rogue and we can just make it rain stuns, fact of the matter is that those 5CP are off of our burst which we'd need to do during that stun, not to mention that so far we've hit like an empty sack. Also 5s CS is glyphed.
On PTR I can agree with you, but not on live, which the poster you quoted was referring to.
5 sec Cheap Shot, 5 sec Kidney Shot, 4 sec Poison stun. Super balanced, 14 seconds of stun.
And I'm not just whining, btw. This is what happened to me yesterday. Rogues don't need survivability when they can just lock someone out for 10+ seconds.
Don't worry, next patch rogues will be kicking tons of ass. Not because they are OP, but because they're obviously ultra skilled ninjas.
Did the priest do anything during the Paralytic?
Excellent. Post a link to your rogue's armory so we can watch you destroy the ladders!Dusting off my HARP rogue who hasn't seen high end arena since S4 for this abortion of a patch. If you cried when I raped on my warrior, the rogue raping will be twice as bad.
I really wouldn't argue with Korgoth guys. While he does bring up some decent points every once in a while, his posts are so biased with hate towards other classes that you'll never leave the discussion feeling like anything was accomplished.
And, Korgoth, I will bet you money that Rogue rep will never reach 20% in the next season. I'm going to guess that you'll see a more equitable distribution between Rogue and Warrior. I will mail you $50 if by 12 weeks after the next patch goes live if Rogues Arena Rep at 2200 and above is at 20%. The only thing I ask in return, is that if Rogue reputation is less than Warrior Rep at that time, you issue a public apology.
A public apology to who? Delusional rogues, the people who get carried by them, or the BG players who just want to rag on warriors for getting swiftyd? I'm still waiting for my apology from all the rogues who said they weren't going to be overpowered in S11 during the 4.3 PTR... anytime now guys.
When you see someone in a thread making the same canned responses over and over, click their name, click view forum posts, and see if they are a troll. Then don't feed them."Gamer" is not a bad word. I identify as a gamer. When calling out those who persecute and harass, the word you're looking for is "asshole." @_DonAdams
Browsing the patch notes again, I say that DK is going to be nigh unkillable this season.
Conversion is going to be ridiculous healing with 5/5 change. A DK sitting in blood presence and full resil-gemmed will be a nightmare to take down.
So everyone complained about warriors? Wait until this season starts and get a taste of DKs. Like the saying goes, meet your new boss, just like the old boss.
When you see someone in a thread making the same canned responses over and over, click their name, click view forum posts, and see if they are a troll. Then don't feed them."Gamer" is not a bad word. I identify as a gamer. When calling out those who persecute and harass, the word you're looking for is "asshole." @_DonAdams
OMG 13:37 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Cleave unto me, and I shall grant to thee the blessing of eternal salvation."
And His disciples said unto Him, "Can we get Kings instead?"
Yes this is correct. I rated monks higher on survivability at the beginning of this thread, but with the nerf to Ring of Peace and Chi Wave, they are one of the squishier melees and will be easily burst down.
Right now for survivability this is how I would rate:
1st tier: DKs, rogues
2nd tier: Rets, ferals, warrior
3rd tier: enh shaman, ww monks