Just saying. To me they are a bunch of self entitled little kids being angry at PvP for all kind of reasons trying to sideline it and get it out of WoW altogether because most of them don't stand a chance to reach much of anything and for a great many of them that alone seems to be absolutely unacceptible. They seem to be unable to accept that there are things they can't get a few expansions later or simply by going often enough because they are up against real people.