Worth dropping Heroic T14 4pc for Normal T15 2pc?

[Hartlin]

EDIT: This is for Elemental.

I've got 509 4pc from T14 (with a Chest off-piece, no tier chest available). Wondering if anyone has any numbers on whether we should be dropping HM T14 4pc for the normal T15 2pc?

Appreciate any feedback / numbers / links about this!

[Deleted]

The NORMAL T15 is Ilvl 522, so i'd say yes.
Didn't test it by myself but from what i've heard t-15 2 pc. is not that bad, plus the fact that you'll get stats increase from 522 Ilvls I think it'll be totally worth it.

[Zues]

The NORMAL T15 is Ilvl 522, so i'd say yes.
Didn't test it by myself but from what i've heard t-15 2 pc. is not that bad, plus the fact that you'll get stats increase from 522 Ilvls I think it'll be totally worth it.

That's some good math to back up your advice

[Hartlin]

Definitely looking for some math to back it up. You're losing the 4pc bonus, but gaining the 2pc + some stats. Question is, which is worth more?

Once again, appreciate any feedback.

[Bethan]

using the simcraft version that was on the svn 2days ago (to lazy to recompile it right now), on "ptr" (5.2) I sim at 116317 with ~508ilevel (EotE/EB talents). Just removing 4pt14 and adding 2pt15 without changing anything else* gave 116470 dps, so a ~130 (+-100) dps increase. 2pt15 ended up accounting for 2.3% of the sim's dps.

So basically, normal t15 is an upgrade after heroic (even 517) t14. I'd guess lfr t15 set will probably be worst than 517 t14. lfr t15 against 509 t15 might be a "case-by-case" scenario depending on itemisation.

4p is harder to sim and my version of simC doesn't include latest change (-1.5sec per LvB instead of -1sec), but I guess it'll be worth it too, seeing how poor 2pt14 is.


* I did this by adding both those lines to the profile :

tier14_4pc_caster=0
tier15_2pc_caster=1