Massive mage buffs

[Nemasisx]

Providing a clarification over PvP damage concerns.

Frost Bomb now deals 60% of its damage when used against other players, down from 80%.

my calculator say 10%~15% dmg buff in pvp.
ya totally needed, 25% less dmg on 5k hitting corruption was needed as well.

[Deleted]

Providing a clarification over PvP damage concerns.

Frost Bomb now deals 60% of its damage when used against other players, down from 80%.

my calculator say 10%~15% dmg buff in pvp.
ya totally needed, 25% less dmg on 5k hitting corruption was needed as well.

100*0,8 = 80

100*1,4*0,6= 84

84/80 = 1,05 - 5% increase? How is that a 10-15%? :P

[Deleted]

This buff does not change anything for pve (still on the bottom) and totally fucks pvp

[Octohoof]

Just read a twitter post from a blue, and he stated that the change is PVE only and PVP will be altered seperately, yes this is the first time they have done something like this and he said they will not be doing it often. Were saved

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https://twitter.com/holinka/status/311593642894708737

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[gutnbrg]

and still the forums will flow with tears...

[Krixooks]

Just read a twitter post from a blue, and he stated that the change is PVE only and PVP will be altered seperately, yes this is the first time they have done something like this and he said they will not be doing it often. Were saved

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https://twitter.com/holinka/status/311593642894708737
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I hope that helps the problem.

As a warlock, I hope that when I log on tonight my dots aren't nerfed too hard

@gutnbrg
you're clearly not interested in PvP and only here to troll people that are concerned by the hotfix
please leave

[Deleted]

and still the forums will flow with tears...

Obviously because the seperate PvP modifier wasnt mentioned in the first blue post? Do you honestly have any idea how much it would screw over PvP if they buffed frostbomb by 40% in PvP as well? 10 second arena matches would be hilarious and I am sure the community and developers agree.. Not.

It would be like giving Resto druids a 80% healing buff or something just as random.

[Yvaelle]

Yet again - point is missed by Blizzard.

Mages are screwed in PvE ... NOT PvP.

/groan

Actually, the top two PvE single target DPS specs right now are Frost, then Arcane.

http://www.simulationcraft.org/520/Raid_T14H.html

They need PvE nerfs still, if anything.

[Junk]

Can tell you right now that the buff is relevant to pvp. Critting noobs for 240k with shattered frost bomb...demos in strand for 550+k.
This, as of 6:00pm eastern time.

[shell]

Actually, the top two PvE single target DPS specs right now are Frost, then Arcane.

http://www.simulationcraft.org/520/Raid_T14H.html

They need PvE nerfs still, if anything.

SimCraft isn't really that great for dps rankings. Anytime, we as players, try to show GC that our dps is lower than someone else, he tells us to use a different source. The people who make the sims don't have access to all the bits of info needed for accuracy so Blizz has to debug the information. And I'm guessing it takes a lot of time to debug. It'd be nice if they shared that info . Sims are good for figuring out best combo of talents, glyphs, reforges but that's about it.

I suspect that this is closer to the info that Blizz has
http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overa...14/60/default/
http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overa...14/60/default/

At any rate, they changed the effect for pvp and it works out to like ~5% increase, so we're all safe.....for now.

[Deleted]

I play a mage as well as other classes. And this will just be too OP in Pvp. Blizzard don't know how to balance a class in Pve without buffing it in Pvp..

[Hand Banana]

As of like an hour ago, Frost bomb in a deep hit my 66% resil for 76k crit in a duel. No dmg reduction other than resil. Full gear all around.