Originally Posted by
Viromand
If you put it that way you could do that whith every class. I could just put druid in front of your stuff change cds, and say tell me one bad thing about beeing druid.
One bad thing i can tell you right now, aoe tanking paladins are very weak compared to a druid dk or monk.
And why would you bring another class.
Warrior for your raid is the strongest dps tankclass, if you dont have another warrior.
Druid if you want a class with lots of add control, aoe speed buff, amour debuff. strong raidcooldown.
-Mitigation all tanks are on almost identical, some are stonger on this fight some on others.
-DPS druid monks and pala are strong here the other seem to be a bit behing.
-Selfheal, on fights like leishi or stone quard heroic, where you just use FR as a druid he will outheal any other class, the only one getting close to that will be a very high vengeance pala. And pala and dks take dmg and absorb or heal it, of course they have high self heal.
-Raidbuffs. pala can buff 1 of his 2, as a druid you buff 2 (stats+crit), warrior 2 buffs(ap or hp), monk(i believe it was one,crit is only buffed by WW), dk 1 buff, so druid are best in this part. pala just equal to the other tanks.
-Raidcooldown: Druids HotW+Tranq strongest healcd in 10m. Warrior 10% reduced dmg from any kind, hp shout ( its not crappy at all, EH on the entire raid is still stronger than any healcd). monk has two raidcds. one negates 5 cast on raidmembers one take dmg from the raid and gives it to the monk. paladin have auramastery which is completely useless on physical encounters, and hammer of light which is on par with the other cooldowns, it scales good it has a low cooldown, but the strongest part of this cooldown, it heals everybody inside the aoe not jsut 3-6 people or lowers the heal if more than 3 are in it it always the same, if you hav 5 or 10 inside of it.
-ultiliy: Druid symbiosis, raidspeed, add control, BR. DK Aoe grip, single target grip. Warrior: high mobility, banners, lvl75 talents, shockwave stun every 20/40 seconds. Monk: high mobility, best kite tank, glyphed firebreath, cooldown beast (almost every button you press as a BM gives you a bonus to your mitigation)
why i would bring any other class over a paladin.
1) the other tank is a better player.
2) you want another tank for your setup, due to lack of raidcd/buff/debuff.
3) maybe you would want a better offtank than pala (which they are also not the best at, monks and druids are alot stronger on that part)#
4) you already have a healpala, that can bop/purity, has auramastery, hammer of light.
5) you want a druid cause he is the only tank that has a range dps specc, for tanks you want to solotank maybe.
6)Or jsut cause 70% of you raid could just be on the palatoken.
There are so many reason to take any other class, i wanted a paladin in my raidgroup so i looked for one, cause i play a druid in 10m and pala druid team up really good in 10m.
But, if a protpala is not as good as a warrior tank skillwise, the warrior tank will be better for any raid. Same goes for all the other classes.
Are monk and paladins strong? yes they are.
can you kill every current boss with any other tanksetup? yes
going for heroic raids, you should atleast have 1 paladin, in your group. If not you will still be able to clear 13/13.
Im not saying they arent the strongest tanking class. But just because some dont know all the other tanking classes or dont know how a paladin works doenst make paladin the strongest. Any good played dk druid warrior will help you get throught ToT easier than a midskilled paladin. Equally skilled paladin will make it easier, but not impossible for the other tanks to be on par in most situations.