Originally Posted by
Siddown
I have no idea who Flaks is, but my limited time on the forums I'm quite familiar with Deleth and his/her "arguments". He creates strawmans for himself involved around "prove" that the devs are "liars" and rudely dismisses anyone who doesn't share his opinion on the subject as being "wrong". Take this thread for example, it is entirely about gearing up someone in PvP gear, but he wants to bring it back to scaling gear for PvE which is not what it's remotely about. His argument is completely baseless, yet he (and you apparently) get to say that anyone who disagrees with him is wrong. It's silly to be honest. It's like if I made a value judgement about who the best baseball player of all time is, or what's the best movie of 2012, and shouted down anyone who has a different opinion.
The developers have made it quiet clear that they want to want to make it much easier to get into PvP, and right now that is very difficult for two sets of players 1) New 90s or 2) Established 90s with only PvE gear. If you dispute this (as it appears you are doing), then you either haven't been listening to what they've been saying or have chosen to completely ignore it. You ignoring what the devs have been saying doesn't "prove" that Deleth is right or Flaks is wrong.
In 5.3 they are attempting to solve this problem by giving everyone a much higher base defense, but by doing so they realized that PvE gear would be ridiculously overpowered, so they added the iLevel scaling to pull it back and they upped the amount of PvP power on gear but lowered it's relative effectiveness. So you need more PvP Power to do damage which effectively nerfs PvP Power Gems which eliminates (or greatly reduces) the possibility of some PvE geared player gemming with PvP Power and being effective.
What Deleth doesn't seem to get is PvE is a completely different type of game, where as gear progress has been shown to be important to a vast majority of the player base, but they have also tried the same thing with Challenge Mode and frankly it just hasn't been that successful. Players in PvE want gear progression, the overwhelming majority of players don't want it for PvP. Deleth comparing that to Pet Battles is not only silly, it's inaccurate because Pet Battles are all about progression, the complete opposite.
In PvP, despite a small minority, most players have expressed that they are happy with this change for the very reasons Flaks has stated. Again, if you choose to not believe that, that's fine, but you won't get much traction since while people might not be thrill with how Blizzard is going about 5.3, they are okay with the why they are doing it.
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Seriously, Warriors have it bad in 5.2 and the sky is falling. I have a Warrior, I love my Warrior, and yes right now they aren't nearly as powerful as Rogues, but in 5.1 they dominated and I don't mean by a little, I mean by a lot. Rogues do in 5.2 (but not to the same degree as Warriors in 5.1), with nerfs coming to Rogues in 5.3 and buffs coming to Warriors, that will likely even out.
For right or wrong, Blizzard continues to evolve the game, and doing so new imbalances emerge. What's odd is for every class that is down, another is up yet I never read about complaints from the classes that are "up", just the ones that are down.
By all accounts, burst is down on the PTR for 5.3.