Rate my Challenge mode gear

[Unoriginal]

A while back i started a thread here about challenge mode "BiS" gear and now i have returned for some feedback. One thing i already know is that I don't have the int proc wep enchant and 180 int to bracers. I'm currently working the AH to make back the gold i used on my trinket. I'm also waiting for my goddamn shield to drop off tortos lfr.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...aille/advanced

Took a couple of weeks, starting from a full resto pvp set/spec.

What do you guy's think?

[Venziir]

I don't know a whole lot about CM stuff, but I think it's worth mentioning that I like your transmog set, the feathers and earthly colours are quite fitting for a Wildhammer Dwarf, so well done

[Unoriginal]

I don't know a whole lot about CM stuff, but I think it's worth mentioning that I like your transmog set, the feathers and earthly colours are quite fitting for a Wildhammer Dwarf, so well done

lol thanks

[Eiran]

You are quite a bit under the 15% hit cap, you probably should not reforge out of spirit that much.

The PvP shield is of course optimal.

There are IMHO better options for waist:
- Links of Bonded Blood (requires Shieldwall reputation) has slightly better gem sockets and socket bonus
- Links of the Bifurcated Tongue (from Megaera) has more sockets and better socket bonus (even if it's spirit it helps with the hit cap).

The T15 gloves have a socket so they would be better.

You should also enchant your cloak.

I'm sure there are other items that might be better (e.g. Durumu drops a ring with a gem socket which might be useful too), but getting them depends a lot on luck with drops and reputation ratings. So all in all not a bad start I would say.

[Saphyron]

You are quite a bit under the 15% hit cap, you probably should not reforge out of spirit that much.

The PvP shield is of course optimal.

There are IMHO better options for waist:
- Links of Bonded Blood (requires Shieldwall reputation) has slightly better gem sockets and socket bonus
- Links of the Bifurcated Tongue (from Megaera) has more sockets and better socket bonus (even if it's spirit it helps with the hit cap).

The T15 gloves have a socket so they would be better.

You should also enchant your cloak.

I'm sure there are other items that might be better (e.g. Durumu drops a ring with a gem socket which might be useful too), but getting them depends a lot on luck with drops and reputation ratings. So all in all not a bad start I would say.

Im not the best on Challenge modes but as far i remember the bosses in dungeons is lvl 92 thus they need lower spell hit. if i remember correctly 12% is more than enough for lvl 92's

[Deleted]

You need 15% hit for CM. I believe they changed it so raiders wouldn't feel forced to reforge to a lower hitcap for CMs.
Here's a blue post on it: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...925497?page=12

[kubuntu]

You Dont need mega Optimal gear for CMs, i did my 9/9 Gold Cms as Enh with over expertice cap and not best posible items wit like 1-5 min befour mini Gold req depend from Instance
if you 463+ilevel Full gem enchant flask food and pots the Tactic > Optimal gear

beter spend time on finding best posible tactic for dungeon insted of optimazing gear

[Eiran]

Tactic > Optimal gear

Definitely. Still, better gear won't hurt

[Shauren]

You will be spending a whole lot spamming chain lightning there and with that in mind you should probably replace Breath of the Hydra with alchemy trinket (even 458 not upgraded will do)

[Deleted]

Regardless of what wowprogress says this guy has the best challenge mode times as an elemental shaman in the world so I would try and copy some of the gear he is using
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...coils/advanced

As people have mentioned already breath of hydra is horrible, not just because it procs from dots but because its rppm (rppm is shit in challenge modes). You also need 15% hit and the pvp shield is a major loss of stats, it only gives int and one secondary stat while say an offhand item like teslacoils is using has int and two secondary stats.

[Nerthfu]

Regardless of what wowprogress says this guy has the best challenge mode times as an elemental shaman in the world so I would try and copy some of the gear he is using
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...coils/advanced

As people have mentioned already breath of hydra is horrible, not just because it procs from dots but because its rppm (rppm is shit in challenge modes). You also need 15% hit and the pvp shield is a major loss of stats, it only gives int and one secondary stat while say an offhand item like teslacoils is using has int and two secondary stats.

/poke

Just wanted to say that everyone saying rppm is shit in CMs should reconsider. Some rppm are shit (http://www.wowhead.com/item=95802 & http://www.wowhead.com/item=95814). Most of them are fine or ok, and some of them are simply great for CMs.

In most cases, RPPM isn't nerfed in CMs it's only the proc value that gets nerfed. In those case where the proc can't be nerfed, then the rppm is nerfed.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=96492 Has a better uptime in CMs than in raid on a monk tank

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/poke

Just wanted to say that everyone saying rppm is shit in CMs should reconsider. Some rppm are shit (http://www.wowhead.com/item=95802 & http://www.wowhead.com/item=95814). Most of them are fine or ok, and some of them are simply great for CMs.

In most cases, RPPM isn't nerfed in CMs it's only the proc value that gets nerfed. In those case where the proc can't be nerfed, then the rppm is nerfed.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=96492 Has a better uptime in CMs than in raid on a monk tank

Well yea talisman is something along the lines of 3 rppm so its going to be much better than the others. The main issue I have with rppm trinkets is that once they procced the first time (very predictable) you have almost no way of predicting when they will proc again and thus is impossible to line up with cooldowns. To make matters worse you also put them on a 5min cooldown when you zone into instances so you either have to wait for the cd or get ressed.

[Nerthfu]

Well yea talisman is something along the lines of 3 rppm so its going to be much better than the others. The main issue I have with rppm trinkets is that once they procced the first time (very predictable) you have almost no way of predicting when they will proc again and thus is impossible to line up with cooldowns. To make matters worse you also put them on a 5min cooldown when you zone into instances so you either have to wait for the cd or get ressed.

Yeah I do hate the nature of rppm being unpredictable compare to "traditional" trinket, but they're not bad because of a lower rppm, which in most case isn'T even true. And let's be honest, 99.9% of the challenge mode player won't actually pick trinkets to align pulls with the trinket proc, nor will their runs be predictable enough or timed enough that they could plan those kinds of things in advance.