An invis that ceases to work if you move and being able to remove poisons, diseases, and bleeds are "amazing"? Hardly. While they may be better than the gnome anti-root racial on a 1 and 3/4 min CD or GotN (which is god awful), they're hardly amazing. Stoneform works for a second, but all poisons, diseases, and bleeds can just be re-applied. Shadowmeld is great if you're going to stand in one spot. Otherwise you can use to to drop off of another player's radar......for about 1 sec until they realize you're standing in the same spot you cast it at. Compared to an AoE stun, AoE silence, a Rocket Jump gap closer, 15% (25% with meta) stun reduction, Berserking, and Bloodfury (hell, even WotF), those two racials are garbage.
my main is horde... i just don't cry about everything i don't have as a class or a race like you seem to in your posts.
and perception never worked that well..ever.
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i've been thinking this everytime i check into this thread.. but havent bothered since EMFH is still the best option available in cases when those are both available to the class.. except for maybe disco priest.
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its not a free trinket slot .. you just get a new trinket proc.
that is, if you have insignia, you still get stats from it.
If you are human, you still get stats and one proc in addition to that.
Why dont people realize that the most OP racials are will of the forsaken and escape artist? ... Thoes races actualy get like 2 trinkets...
Aim your qq there, thanks.
just remove all pve/pvp benefits from racials. picking a race should only have to do with cosmetics/lore, not what's better for your class.
I personally wish they would fire off all the racials into the sun. Let people play what they want to play based on RP/Appearance rather than trying to pick based on racials in order to maximise output.
I never understood how EMFH fit with the Diplomacy racial. Wouldn't they be mutually exclusive? If humans will abandon their allies at the drop of a hat, why would it be easier for humans to make friends with factions? IMO, humans should lose rep with all factions every time they use EMFH.
Everyone should get baseline EMFH. Humans can get their stealth detection back.
By all means, please enlighten me as to how Shadowmeld works since the tooltip obviously doesn't explain its benefits (which are things I've already described) to me well enough. And, please, don't tell me about how it benefits certain classes. Many racials benefit certain classes (like spirit for human healers), but we're talking baseline racials and their abilities.
Racials need to be cosmetic. Scrap them all.
I would say yes, because as much as people say that Trolls and Orcs and Undead have insane racials (if you ask me, WOTF needs to go too... less trinkets in this game, so we can lower amount of CC = everybody is CC'd less).
The ability for a human to get an extra trinket that isn't a medallion is better than the blood fury pop because most proc trinkets, especially the PvE one are proccing for ~4k of a stat. That's like 8k attack power, assuming you're not a hunter, sub rogue, DK, etc that scale with primary stats insanely well. That's the problem with it, is that it scales with how well the gear of that season is (and later in the xpac = better, as blood fury is a base amount). They should remove it and find a different racial, perhaps a pop for mastery if they want to make it a pop like some horde races have.
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Eh, too much homogenization. It's cool and makes sense that there is a difference between a troll hunter and a dwarf hunter.
The amount of humans is TOO GOD DAMN HIGH!!!
it's still the best pvp racial in the game is it not? correct me because i'm actually curious
Its the best in pvp imo, even the best during questing outdoors on a pvp server.
There are other good racials (free energy for BE,etc), but just not on par with EMFH. In all honestly, i rolled undead in vanilla because i loved the lore from Wc3. Only then when I found out about its OP racial did i love undead even more.
Pvp is a huge part of WoW. I feel like those who don't really care about emfh getting changed or not are just the ones who dont really pvp.
Yeah EMFH is just too good, if you're wanting to pvp. Forces people to roll human no matter what. And that just shouldn't be the case.
I totally disagree with scrapping racials, it's a cool element to add in but a bit of a rework around some is needed.
Sadly pvp isn't a huge part of WoW, but it's definitely getting there. It's still classed as a pve based game(hence expansions), not saying that's a bad thing. I've had my time raiding ( I think everyone has) but i feel they can only spin move from the aoe on the ground, watch out for that flying shit, click this thing, group up at x and watch the god damn FIRE so many times.
Alas, I digress...
It's definitely too good in PvP, there's no doubt about that. It saddens me that whenever I feel like leveling another class for PvP, I automatically have to pick human when on the blue side. What people don't seem to understand is the fact that the proc/on use trinkets have different stats from the regular PvP trinket. I compared my feral (that obviously can't be human) to my human friend in similar gear, and he had a ridiculous 5% more PvP power. That's quite a big difference in addition to him having a second trinket effect.