1.3 million sub drop

[Tomana]

(someone remind me when that was put in the game)

Patch 2.2, damn that was a long time ago

[Demithio]

Ease of access is a double edged sword for Blizzard. While it may attract more casuals in the short term, it also creates boredom much faster, and Blizzard simply cannot keep up with the amount of simplified content the player base rapidly eats up. On top of that, overall design quality seems to have taken a hit, WoW has become a repetitive grind to the point of being more of a task based job (i.e. log in to do yet another round of dailies) than a thought provoking game. I'm not surprised to see the sub drops.

[Osmeric]

Ease of access is a double edged sword for Blizzard. While it may attract more casuals in the short term, it also creates boredom much faster, and Blizzard simply cannot keep up with the amount of simplified content the player base rapidly eats up.

Experience suggests this is not actually the real problem. People become almost instantly bored with content they don't have a good prospect to do, since it might as well not even be in the game for them.

[Vankrys]

Experience suggests this is not actually the real problem. People become almost instantly bored with content they don't have a good prospect to do, since it might as well not even be in the game for them.

it's a balance to strike

if the goal is too far, to difficult, too impossible, some might be discouraged and gave up => unsub
but if you give it too easy too fast, feels like you reach your goal, nothing more to see => boredom, unsub
thing is, you need to design so that there is always that goal you strive for, not yet within your reach but definitely accessible.

why in some game like call of duty, some player find it fun to wipe all their progress (prestige) and start over? Maybe they found fun in the actual gameplay so the grind isn't a chore. Maybe that's it, bliz need to make the actual gameplay, killing mod, doing quest fun and engaging tru repetition.

[mvaliz]

Still better then walking in zones with /who: 0 people

Why? We've been fine for ages without people in a Zone... only ones who were upset were the PVP gankers.

[LilSaihah]

I really have to say that I love the roughly one trillion threads that have sprouted out of nowhere to point the blame at whatever game feature is falling underpar and causing these subscription drops.

[Glorious Leader]

Why? We've been fine for ages without people in a Zone... only ones who were upset were the PVP gankers.

The /who zones aren't the problem. I know of no one who actually gave a shit while lvling new player or old. The problems start at end game and CRZ doesn't solve those. It's a cure in search of a disease.

[ZakAtack]

Experience suggests this is not actually the real problem. People become almost instantly bored with content they don't have a good prospect to do, since it might as well not even be in the game for them.

Wasn't that the case in BC with Kara/BT/SWP when WoW was at the height of its subs?

[Destinas]

CRZ is fail I'm sorry. Even if it's as you say a beta version then it probably should be removed from the game until it's "fixed" or until they have a release candidate version of it.

Personally, I have no problem with the concept of CRZ. I honestly don't mind competition for nodes and rares, I got used to that on a busy server when I started. The problem I DO have is that the system didn't work right away. They released it in such a horrible state. I don't find it helpful when a friend and I are heading to an old raid with one person as the driver on their Sandstone Drake, and the passenger disconnects constantly when going into a new zone. Or when there's an in-game holiday and I lag out completely because, you know, Goldshire is already always busy on my realm, even on non-holidays. If the technology had been refined and the bugs had been squashed out long ago, I wouldn't constantly have to remind myself and work around the bugs and lag.

[Exeris]

Why? We've been fine for ages without people in a Zone... only ones who were upset were the PVP gankers.

I like having others around me when I lvl an alt, I have enough single player games.

[Deleted]

The /who zones aren't the problem. I know of no one who actually gave a shit while lvling new player or old. The problems start at end game and CRZ doesn't solve those. It's a cure in search of a disease.

I would have to disagree on that one bro.
The problem starts right at the beginning.
The game is dated and old players will get bored of it. You need to have the replacement ready on.
Have you tried levelling a new char recently? It's boring as fuck.

This 1.3 million drop is not due to players leaving only, players always left. This semester, they lacked the replacement. New players aren't interested in it. And I can't blame them. Till higher levels the game literally sucks ass.

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I like having others around me when I lvl an alt, I have enough single player games.

That's how I used to meet the people on my friends list.

[Glorious Leader]

I would have to disagree on that one bro.
The problem starts right at the beginning.
The game is dated and old players will get bored of it. You need to have the replacement ready on.
Have you tried levelling a new char recently? It's boring as fuck.

This 1.3 million drop is not due to players leaving only, players always left. This semester, they lacked the replacement. New players aren't interested in it. And I can't blame them. Till higher levels the game literally sucks ass.

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That's how I used to meet the people on my friends list.

It's not fun at high lvls either obviously. CRZ does nothing to make it better at low lvls though. With regards to low levels crz is one of the worst things they could have implemented. It fails at it stated goal and only gives players the downsides of high pop realms.

[Syran]

CRZ is an illusion, a mask to hide dead realms. Instead of merging realms they invent this useless tech, which contributes to nothing.

My once thriving realm is now completely dead (by dead I mean no Alliance raiding guilds in T14 and T15). I logged in to check it out, saw some people in IF and then quickly realized that they're not even from my realm, just copies of other peoples from somewhere else. AH and chat are still dead, recruitment too and it looks nothing will change really.

Instead of fixing these issues, making bigger servers with larger communities (people have been asking this for years) they go and come up with CRZ. Laughable.

[Glorious Leader]

CRZ is an illusion, a mask to hide dead realms. Instead of merging realms they invent this useless tech, which contributes to nothing.

My once thriving realm is now completely dead (by dead I mean no Alliance raiding guilds in T14 and T15). I logged in to check it out, saw some people in IF and then quickly realized that they're not even from my realm, just copies of other peoples from somewhere else. AH and chat are still dead, recruitment too and it looks nothing will change really.

Instead of fixing these issues, making bigger servers with larger communities (people have been asking this for years) they go and come up with CRZ. Laughable.

Blizzard is amazing at doing that it seems. Replicating something without understanding it's essence.

[Deleted]

It's not fun at high lvls either obviously. CRZ does nothing to make it better at low lvls though. With regards to low levels crz is one of the worst things they could have implemented. It fails at it stated goal and only gives players the downsides of high pop realms.

Oh absolutely. Cross realm tools are what they are. to me they bring more problems than solutions on the long run.

[Rhyder]

I have recently cancelled my sub and all my in real friends have as well. For me personally, the reason why I am not playing this game is because I have absolutely no interest in the current story and refuse to pay for a realm change from my dead server.

[Deleted]

I wonder what the sub numbers are -right now-.
They said they expect further losses so the decline must be quite great.

[Deleted]

I would have to disagree on that one bro.
The problem starts right at the beginning.
The game is dated and old players will get bored of it. You need to have the replacement ready on.
Have you tried levelling a new char recently? It's boring as fuck.

This 1.3 million drop is not due to players leaving only, players always left. This semester, they lacked the replacement. New players aren't interested in it. And I can't blame them. Till higher levels the game literally sucks ass.

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That's how I used to meet the people on my friends list.

The people on my friends list I meet in dungeon runs and in my guild.

[khalltusk]

YOU ARE INCORRECT GOOD SIR!!!!

It's a lot easier to make an MMORPG feel like an RPG when you have 10,000 customers than when you have 10,000,000 customers. Today, the stuff that people "remember" from UO that was so rpgreat would make you feel alienated from the other people around you.

PLEASE DO NOT POST LIES, IT GOES AGAINST MY BELIEFS!!!

Eh? So you are saying customisable housing isnt nice? How is that a lie surely thats your opinion? As that was mine that the player houing was fucking great. I had some of the most fun customising my house as well as doing role playing with my guilds in such areas. Some of the UO stuff was bad though, having died and your body looted? Some harsh penalties.

[Gimlix]

I would have to disagree on that one bro.
The problem starts right at the beginning.
The game is dated and old players will get bored of it. You need to have the replacement ready on.
Have you tried levelling a new char recently? It's boring as fuck.

This 1.3 million drop is not due to players leaving only, players always left. This semester, they lacked the replacement. New players aren't interested in it. And I can't blame them. Till higher levels the game literally sucks ass.

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That's how I used to meet the people on my friends list.

They need to remove 90 guards appearing in towns when you attack it, let low levelers enjoy some WPvP aswell, then leveling itselfs gets alot more fun, if they remvoed 90 guards i would lvl up a character again, ATM it's just so boring to start a new character because all you can do is leveling, that's all basicly.
Proffesions is a option but that's it, if they give them a little taste of Wpvp.