Legacy Realms - What's your verdict

[Duronos]

Imo, that bold part in the quote above may actually be a very big obstacle in front of establishing legacy servers. Because, if such legacy servers receive a lot of subs it can be interpreted as Blizzard screwed up in the recent expansions (basically Cata and MoP), especially considering the large scale sub losses since the beginning of Cata. Keep in mind that Blizzard folks have jobs and careers to worry about, and they also need to worry about the relations with shareholders and investors.

The only way I can imagine legacy servers may become possible is if and when Blizzard gets so desperate (if for instance sub losses continue in large numbers and Titan does not become the next WoW in terms of attracting lots of players) that they may decide to disregard the risks of looking like they screwed up for the sake of the revenue they can get from legacy servers (a large pool of tens of millions of potential players).

You know what, I really wish I could elaborate on this post but it's just so damn good. I'm really being serious, you made the single best post I've seen in a long time.

[Deleted]

The second you have legacy realms you will have player complaining about bugs, exploits and class imbalances of earlier versions instead.
And it will be a headache trying to fix them all and then balance the game 5 times in all different versions.

[Kelimbror]

Like many have said, I wouldn't fully convert my account. I like experiencing all of the new content, but would love to have a legit and reliable way of experiencing TBC over again. I'm not going to touch all the servers out there offering the content b/c it's 1) Not 'really' the same and 2) Technically illegal.

I would play characters on a live realm and TBC classic mode, but I don't expect it is ever going to happen. Maybe when WoW has dropped to 1-2 million subscribers they may flip one on to make an extra buck, but I honestly don't see it happening ever unfortunately.

[Duronos]

Like many have said, I wouldn't fully convert my account. I like experiencing all of the new content, but would love to have a legit and reliable way of experiencing TBC over again. I'm not going to touch all the servers out there offering the content b/c it's 1) Not 'really' the same and 2) Technically illegal.

I would play characters on a live realm and TBC classic mode, but I don't expect it is ever going to happen. Maybe when WoW has dropped to 1-2 million subscribers they may flip one on to make an extra buck, but I honestly don't see it happening ever unfortunately.

That would be nice if they have legacy servers running though you have to think about it. It's a business, will they get at least some profit out of it? You can't do things on that big a scale in business regardless of how rich Blizzard is. Now if it was publicly funded through donations I don't think they'd have a problem with it.

[Zaqwert]

Imo, that bold part in the quote above may actually be a very big obstacle in front of establishing legacy servers. Because, if such legacy servers receive a lot of subs it can be interpreted as Blizzard screwed up in the recent expansions (basically Cata and MoP), especially considering the large scale sub losses since the beginning of Cata. Keep in mind that Blizzard folks have jobs and careers to worry about, and they also need to worry about the relations with shareholders and investors.

The only way I can imagine legacy servers may become possible is if and when Blizzard gets so desperate (if for instance sub losses continue in large numbers and Titan does not become the next WoW in terms of attracting lots of players) that they may decide to disregard the risks of looking like they screwed up for the sake of the revenue they can get from legacy servers (a large pool of tens of millions of potential players).

I think you hit at one of the major reasons I think they are reluctant to do it but one they wouldn't say, they are worried about cannibalizing players from the main game too.

[fangless]

Basically, the current game sucks, the old game sucked too.

So, someone tell me what period of time this game was fun during?

[-Superman-]

Basically, the current game sucks, the old game sucked too.

So, someone tell me what period of time this game was fun during?

Was fun in TBC, got more fun in wrath, lost it's fun factor in Cata, and is slowly gaining it back in MoP. I loved TBC, but I would never go back to the game since all of the new QoL changes.

[MoanaLisa]

I think you hit at one of the major reasons I think they are reluctant to do it but one they wouldn't say, they are worried about cannibalizing players from the main game too.

They would do this in a heartbeat if they thought they could bring in more players and make money on it. You can bet they've looked at it, decided they can't and moved on. Something that everyone else should do. It's a silly rationale for not making money if they could. So, they can't.

[Meatboll]

Just found this. Blizzard sued a private server host and won $88 million in damages. Interesting tidbit:

However, the majority of the award was $85.4m in "statutory damages". The court decided to award Blizzard $200 "per act of circumvention" - i.e. for each of Scapegaming's 427,000 users when the community was at its peak in June 2008.

That's a lot of interest considering WotLK wasn't released until November 2008. So the people playing on those server were either on vanilla or previous patches of BC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...te-server-case

[Yuuki Asuna]

I would just play what's out there. I've done the time on each expansion already. I'm not really nostalgic in that sense. The only thing I really miss was the good times Currently creating new ones with MoP!

[Deleted]

You know I actually do hope they will implement some old patch realms, just one of each will do. Just so everyone with false nostalgia can find out that things weren't better and we can finally end this discussion...

[Duronos]

You know I actually do hope they will implement some old patch realms, just one of each will do. Just so everyone with false nostalgia can find out that things weren't better and we can finally end this discussion...

Funny because I'm currently playing on a BC server (ohhh smite me) and my god how can I enjoy it, play it more so than MoP? I'm not the only one. (Psychosocial reference)

[Viriel]

Funny because I'm currently playing on a BC server (ohhh smite me) and my god how can I enjoy it, play it more so than MoP? I'm not the only one. (Psychosocial reference)

Maybe you have that real feeling about it, but the person you responded too(and I agree with him) has a point. It seems to be a habit on every WoW forum to bash the current content(whether it's right or not is a different matter) and praise the old content. I've been back to tbc and wrath on a private server, but the feeling for me was not the same as it was on live back when tbc was current.(this was in cata). Mechanics felt clunky compared to cata(and I dont even want to know how it wuld be compared to MoP AM tanking), and bossmechanics seemed extremely boring and repeating. Overall, the experience I had was less fun than I had on live, so I went back, and with the introduction of MoP I haven't regretted that yet.

[Duronos]

Maybe you have that real feeling about it, but the person you responded too(and I agree with him) has a point. It seems to be a habit on every WoW forum to bash the current content(whether it's right or not is a different matter) and praise the old content. I've been back to tbc and wrath on a private server, but the feeling for me was not the same as it was on live back when tbc was current.(this was in cata). Mechanics felt clunky compared to cata(and I dont even want to know how it wuld be compared to MoP AM tanking), and bossmechanics seemed extremely boring and repeating. Overall, the experience I had was less fun than I had on live, so I went back, and with the introduction of MoP I haven't regretted that yet.

The Dutch were always known as the ones unwilling to listen, I kid, though I've heard your people are very straight and to the point with no icing on top.

Whatever floats your boat, I don't play WoW like I would a mindless FPS such as CoD or ARAM in LoL. I play it for an adventure, sort of like Skyrim I guess and MoP lacks that adventure feel much like Cataclysm.

[Deleted]

I think I did mention it earlier in the thread, but why what about progression realms with a slow release of content?

[Deleted]

The Dutch were always known as the ones unwilling to listen, I kid, though I've heard your people are very straight and to the point with no icing on top.

Whatever floats your boat, I don't play WoW like I would a mindless FPS such as CoD or ARAM in LoL. I play it for an adventure, sort of like Skyrim I guess and MoP lacks that adventure feel much like Cataclysm.

Ghe, take a guess as to where I am from, so I suppose you have a point. I guess I shouldn't deny people their fun, I just can't imagine there are enough people to fill entire realms, but maybe that's just me

[Duronos]

Ghe, take a guess as to where I am from, so I suppose you have a point. I guess I shouldn't deny people their fun, I just can't imagine there are enough people to fill entire realms, but maybe that's just me

You're an ostrich, I'd assume the Savannah's in Africa.

OT: I think there are enough to fill at least a couple realms, it's not like you need to make 50 of them.

[Deleted]

The vast majority of the vanilla nostalgia boys and girls would most likely stop playing after 1 week when they realize vanilla isn't as cool as they thought it was and then finally quit wow and leave us alone.

Because then they realize that all their emotions about wow over the passed years in fact IS nostalgia and has nothing todo with 'bad game design or panda's'.

[Duronos]

The vast majority of the vanilla nostalgia boys and girls would most likely stop playing after 1 week when they realize vanilla isn't as cool as they thought it was and then finally quit wow and leave us alone.

Because then they realize that all their emotions about wow over the passed years in fact IS nostalgia and has nothing todo with 'bad game design or panda's'.

Actually there are a fair amount of people playing on private servers for Vanilla and BC whether you want to believe it or not, it's factual evidence.

[Tofifi]

"Fair amount" is very subjective compared to the retail WoW player base. At least from my experience playing on such server, even tho it was about 6 years ago.