Great job

[alba007]

So, according to Blizzard, casual players are not involved much and most of the recent sub loss was from Asia.

They have turned the game upside down and dumbed it down to no ends to cater to a group of players they call "casuals", and they developed a whole expansion (panda expansion) based on Chinese culture to cater to Chinese market. The result is they lost both of these target markets!?!?

Great job Blizzard! Congratz!

Who wants to tell Blizzard, maybe they are doing it wrong?

[Gimlix]

WoW is probably losing subscribers on the asian market because there are tons of Asain games there, and WoW was an exception and now WoW is asian too they are going to a different game because they got plenty asian MMO's there and even better ones they might like more.
WoW just needs to go back to their own roots, Demons and stuff

Also i don' think rant post towards blizzard is allowed.

[Tomana]

MOP is very grindy for the average casual player. There is your answer.

[Belloc]

Another thread where the OP doesn't understand how things work.

[FuxieDK]

MOP is very grindy for the average casual player. There is your answer.

It's a LOT LESS grindy than Cata was..
Cata was a grind hell.....

[Tomana]

It's a LOT LESS grindy than Cata was..
Cata was a grind hell.....

At what level? Dailies + VP capping in MOP is a lot more time consuming than in Cata O_o

[FuxieDK]

At what level? Dailies + VP capping in MOP is a lot more time consuming than in Cata O_o

If you raid (not LFR), then VP capping is faster in MoP than Cata..
Dailies are optional...
Mats for flasks/pots/food took FOREVER in Cata..

Hell, in MoP you get the food for free (from dailies) and Wikky gives you free flasks and pots!! How can you say MoP is grindy?

[Gimlix]

If you raid (not LFR), then VP capping is faster in MoP than Cata..
Dailies are optional...
Mats for flasks/pots/food took FOREVER in Cata..

Hell, in MoP you get the food for free (from dailies) and Wikky gives you free flasks and pots!! How can you say MoP is grindy?

Cata was not grindy.
Only thing that was a big grind was Molten Front dailies.
And flasks and food was easily bought from AH lol.

[Deleted]

people say cataclysm sucked i prefer cata than this daily grind fest just to please chinese customers, they have like over 1000 mmo games in there country its like a national sport over there as a previous poster said lets get back to what is supposed to be decent PVP (can only hope) and slaying demons,zombies and big monsters not drinking fucking green tea eating sushi and drinking beer with bears

[britishbubba]

If you raid (not LFR), then VP capping is faster in MoP than Cata..
Dailies are optional...
Mats for flasks/pots/food took FOREVER in Cata..

Hell, in MoP you get the food for free (from dailies) and Wikky gives you free flasks and pots!! How can you say MoP is grindy?

Did you play either of these expansions?

Mats for flasks/pots/food took FOREVER in Cata..

One person in your guild farmed/bought mats to make cauldrons and feasts for your raid. Since you know, feasts back then actually gave the highest number of stats.

If you raid (not LFR), then VP capping is faster in MoP than Cata..

I greatly disagree. I actually valor capped from a week of raiding in Cata, you don't do that in MoP due to bosses giving only 40 valor as opposed to the 120 (100?) it was in cata.

Hell, in MoP you get the food for free (from dailies)

5 Food a day. IF it's your actual food that you use. I use a lot more than 5 food a day.

I'm not sure if you're trolling, or just mistaking one expac for another... Probably one of the people that thought the therazane rep grind was bad, (which wasn't even really a grind, threw on a tabard and ran dungeons you were doing for valor anyway) for shoulder enchants.

[MoanaLisa]

There are a multitude of threads covering this and related topics. Since we don't really need another one, please post your constructive thoughts in one of those.