I am baffled by some of the posters' bitterness towards women

[Skyduke]

... As in, it's crazy what some people will say because they have no clue about how to socially interact properly.

The consensus on this forum seems to be: "Bwahah women are all whores who only want men for their money, and they would rather fuck an outlaw biker instead of a nice guy like me."

PROTIP: Nice guy the way you mean it means emasculated sucker. It means you will debase yourself for her, act like a puppy and generally put her on a pedestal.
Second PROTIP: Women want a man they feel they are equal to, not a wimp. That's what most of the posters here posting about women (while having 0 experience with them!) are.

Now, a bit of advice. Appearance does not matter as much as you think! Being GROOMED is what is important. As in, don't stink, don't have disgusting oily unkempt long hair, don't act like you would with your RPG/Warhammer buddies (at least until later on). Don't wear ratty, mismatched salvation army clothes. Got all that? You are already getting better.

Also (most importantly perhaps) what you consider being a gentleman will get you dumped into the friends category really fast. If you want to be boyfriend material, you need to make it clear. As in, some kino and also actually, you know, asking her out. Otherwise how is she supposed to know you want to do her? Beautiful women meet tons of sucker that behave like perfect gentlemen and that want to do them but never act on it and get dumped into the friends category every day.

It's not about being an "asshole" (which is what most of the losers on this forum think the men that are doing the girls they like are). But these men are assertive and make it quite clear that they are with the girls, but the girls do not control them, or they do not worship her. That makes them automatically more attractive. And remember: If she comes to you crying about him fucking another girl, surprise her and tell her "Well you are choosing to be with him. Either dump him or stop talking about it to me." She won't fuck you but at least she will regain some consideration for you.

Now I am sure a lot of you will be in denial about this for some reason or the other, and think that I am just like you. Well, in a way you are right. I used to be just like that. I was the desperate, overweight (still am...) geek that absolutely wanted a gf. Know what? Never did get one until I told myself "Well you know what? Fuck this shit. It happens when it happens."

I was the archetypal shy fat geek, that girls did not really tell off because they did not want to hurt me.

Fuck me, I so wish they had. I wish a girl had given me a reality check ala "Look: You are fat, ugly, socially inept and a bit smelly too. Stop stalking me. Never going to happen."

Because this kind of rejection is what you need as a catalyst for real change. I had it way later on, when I asked a girl for her phone number and she answered "What for?". I thought I was going to die of shame. She did that in front of other people too. Hurt a lot, but thinking back it was a good experience.

Rejection is part of life. No matter how much you think you "love" that one girl in your class, the odds of you getting her are... Abysmally low. But the good news is: She ain't all that. There are billions of other girls out there. You just need to broaden your circle of acquaintances.

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Some of you will question what I just posted because... Well because they don't want to face the facts. Truth is, my current girlfriend (she is 22... And a 9-10) was quite a good source of info. She gets hit on constantly (obviously). Take for example this one guy, whose name starts with an M and is in her apprenticeship class. He is a good friend for her - he is heads over heel about her. She had a one night stand before she met me. Since he is her bitch and her "friend", she told him about it. He was like "I can't deal with this, etc..." And at another time he was like "You had a one night stand, why won't you sleep with me?".

That is the reason: He BEGGED for sex. How pathetic (and demeaning...) can you get?

Grow a spine. And understand that women are not materialistic (well, not any more than men are), you are just weak and unattractive because of your weakness.

[Roose]

Sooooooooooooo

TLDR: people suck

[Razorlor]

Did you really have nothing better than this to do on a Saturday?

[Simulacrum]

Here we go again...

[StationaryHawk]

don't act like you would with your RPG/Warhammer buddies

So that's what I've been doing wrong.

Honestly, I have no idea where this came from. I've noticed SOME people who think the way you think they do, but certainly no more than anywhere else, and not enough to really warrant a rant.

[FTAzai]

Did you really have nothing better than this to do on a Saturday?

What's wrong with giving others some food for thought?

[LocNess]

Posters? On this forum? Where? Granted I rarely go into relationship threads....

Either way, people are dumb, ignore them or report them.

[Catta]

Ever been to /r/mensrights

[LocNess]

Ever been to /r/mensrights

Thankfully I think most people kind of pretend that one doesn't exist.

[Deleted]

/r/alienporn is better. Or whatever it is called, i don't fucking care i'm being hip and cool.

[Deleted]

Because this kind of rejection is what you need as a catalyst for real change. I had it way later on, when I asked a girl for her phone number and she answered "What for?".

She sounds like a really nice smart girl.

[Roose]

Ever been to /r/mensrights

nub question: wtf does /r/ mean?

[Gemini Sunrise]

nub question: wtf does /r/ mean?

/r/ is a reddit, if I remember correctly.

[Lomak]

OP sounds like he's on his period.

After reading more , its even more pathetic. OP desperately wants to think that everyone else has as much trouble getting pussy as he does.

Just a post of some guy trying too hard to try and prove something lol.

[anveena]

OP sounds like he's on his period.

she probably is

[drewknukem1]

OP, you're complicating things. It's not about grooming or your mannerisms, it's about confidence. Girls are all different, just like men. Sure, the things you discussed are important to SOME (I'd argue even a lot) of women, but not all. The only thing that matters is confidence. EVERYONE (aside from the most obscure or manipulative people) finds confidence sexy, male or female.

I dated a girl I met online for 3 years when I was younger, and now since we separated I've been much more social than I once was. All it takes is confidence and self respect. Another thing - being a close emotional friend is not this unbreakable barrier to a relationship you and so many others make it out to be. So long as you're willing to assert yourself (we'll agree on this part) you have a chance with anyone.

[Cybran]

This wasn't worth the read. I don't know what I expected.

[Deleted]

Congrats, you got laid and have a "9-10" girlfriend.

I have my anime girl harem that are all 10/10 and 100% loyal to me. Sucks to be you.

[Deleted]

Congrats, you got laid and have a "9-10" girlfriend.

I have my anime girls that are all 10/10 and in perfect condition and 100% loyal to me. Sucks to be you.

i lol'd /10char.

[Deleted]

Congrats, you got laid and have a "9-10" girlfriend.

I have my anime girl harem that are all 10/10 and 100% loyal to me. Sucks to be you.

Lol perfect response, really